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[rldoughjr]

My points exactly. Just took my money for 3.8 and 1 week later said too bad, new product, the one we sold you last week without telling you it was end-of-life and giving you an informed choice, is...

[rldoughjr]

Help me out here. What competing products do all the things you are looking for? Your insight might save me some time looking around....

[rldoughjr]

Agree. My original post pointed out that there was free use of 4.x until the anniversary date, then you had to buy a 4.0 license for $195. So no longer free after then

[rldoughjr]

I'd like to know what the options are. I need less networking, more forum based discussion. vB seemed best when I looked around last year. Time to reconsider my choice.

[rldoughjr]

So, what are the options and how do they stack up with 4.0?

[rldoughjr]

It seemed to read that I could use 4.x for no additional charge, but when my anniversary date rolled around I could continue to use 3.8 but could no longer use 4.x without a purchasing a 4.x license.

[rldoughjr]

Ray, can I get a credit for my 2 week old owned license against the deal the expired people get? Doing this one little thing for me and others similarly situated would end most of the grief you guys...

[rldoughjr]

[QUOTE=Suiram;1815249]Utter nonsense. If you have v4.0 you can run it forever, should you wish to never again upgrade the forums. You are not forced to upgrade to each new major version. That's simply...

[rldoughjr]

All I want is my money back on the owned license I just bought and let me start fresh with an expired upgrade. Has this been offered? No. And their response to my direct request? Sorry, SOOL. Oh, and...

[rldoughjr]

There does seem to be an underlying concern here, other than the confusion over costs.

What if there is not a real product yet and this only a ploy by IB to get an infusion of capital. Why...

[rldoughjr]

Actually, it is creating a sense of usuary and abandonment. So maybe we cave, choke down our bad luck at active v. inactive, just paid to own, etc, and most will likely do so to some extent.
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[rldoughjr]

Current active 3.x gets you Forums 4.x until your annual renewal date, then must purchase license. Currently $175 on special, but not available yet. Who know's what it will be in several months. If...

[rldoughjr]

This whole scheme is way too confusing. Too many real and perceived inconsistencies. Too much depends on timing; luck v. brand loyalty; active v. inactive and leased v. owned. I've never seen such a...

[rldoughjr]

New summary thread

Posted here.

[rldoughjr]

Here is the official explanation

Free Upgrade = Updates as long as your current license is active.
$175 Upgrade = Updates as long as 4.0 is being produced and supported.
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