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  • #31
    Originally posted by ronoxQ View Post
    Calling vB a luxury car doesn't make sense. phpBB does EXACTLY what it does, though it presents it differently. It's not a matter of better, as was said a while ago. Each person has a different opinion.

    It's more like Coke or Pepsi. No real answer to that question. (Well, there actually is: Coke. But Pepsi drinkers may disagree.)
    You can't say that vBulletin/phpBB is a Coke/Pepsi thing; it isn't. vBulletin is far more advanced than phpBB on a number of levels.

    Just look over the feature list alone:
    http://www.phpbb.com/features.php
    http://www.vbulletin.com/features.php

    Though all it comes down to is what you prefer, but you can't say that they are the same presented differently.
    Congratulations on the death of vBulletin, Internet Brands.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Onimua View Post
      You can't say that vBulletin/phpBB is a Coke/Pepsi thing; it isn't. vBulletin is far more advanced than phpBB on a number of levels.

      Just look over the feature list alone:
      http://www.phpbb.com/features.php
      http://www.vbulletin.com/features.php

      Though all it comes down to is what you prefer, but you can't say that they are the same presented differently.
      No; I can most certainly say it's like Coke versus Pepsi. Pepsi has more sugar than Coke does. Does it make it better? Nah.

      phpBB has many of the features vBulletin claims on its feature list, after all. It just doesn't brag about it as much. IPBoards, which matches vBulletin feature-for-feature for the most part, claims to have even less than phpBB. Speaking as somebody who has used both, I can say that the differences are mostly aesthetic.

      As for features... the question isn't which has more features, it's which features are actually used. Take vBulletin's calendars: I've seen a total of two forums, out of at least a hundred vB sites I've seen and used, actually use the calendar feature well. Ditto user groups. Perhaps 10 of those hundred sites actually use user groups. And most of those sites use it poorly.

      In terms of efficiency, phpBB wins over vB by quite a bit. Then again, other sites I mentioned beat phpBB by quite a bit more. Does it matter? Of course not. Just as most features don't really matter in the end.

      I'm not saying phpBB is better than vBulletin. I'm just saying, don't assume it's a matter of black and white. There's only one program out there that I can honestly say is unrivaled in what it does, and it's not a forum software. When I chose vBulletin 2 years ago, I did it because this community gave me very detailed and accurate info on the different types of forums. I picked vBulletin because, in the end, it did what I wanted it to do. Every user deserves that sort of information. A blindly pro-vBulletin stance isn't going to help things.
      Omega's Eye- A new way of gaming

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      • #33
        My New Forum

        I like vBulletin and found it very easy to register. I liked the fact the my first two choices of username were 'not available' as they were already assigned to other members. My current 'clunky' old forum has message posters using any names they like which means they are able to post as someone else and I don't know who they are. OK it's 10 years old and there is no registration and login so it can be quite a handful. The vBulletin e-mail confirming registration was quick and the rest was a piece of cake.

        Why then am I being told by a techie friend that phpBB is "a pile of insecure pooh"?

        Answers in plain English please as I am a horn player and not a techie.

        Thanks, OLD TONE

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ronoxQ View Post
          In terms of efficiency, phpBB wins over vB by quite a bit. Then again, other sites I mentioned beat phpBB by quite a bit more. Does it matter? Of course not. Just as most features don't really matter in the end.
          I'd have to argue this point, and would like some sort of proof

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Zachery View Post
            I'd have to argue this point, and would like some sort of proof
            Haha, as would I. I have purchased vBulletin some odd 3 days ago, and I must say, I am very impressed. Good Work, guys

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Zachery View Post
              I'd have to argue this point, and would like some sort of proof
              What point exactly? Efficiency?

              vBulletin has a LOT more going on at once. In terms of just forums, I'd say it's more efficient than phpBB. However, vBulletin's extras make it slightly bulkier than phpBB overall. That always bugged me: I think that a site should start off stripped of all features, and build to a truly customized site.

              As for other sites' efficiency, Vanilla is definitely faster than phpBB and vBulletin. Drupal, meanwhile, is seriously some efficient programming. It's so amazingly minimal: I love it. It's the most efficient system I've seen, and it does much more than any forum software. Its forums aren't as good, though, which I said above.

              If you argue with that, I'd be glad to hear it. I love a good software debate.
              Omega's Eye- A new way of gaming

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              • #37
                But that's an opinion. Not a proof. A proof that can be reproduced in a controlled enviornment. What you gave is an opinion.
                ManagerJosh, Owner of 4 XenForo Licenses, 1 vBulletin Legacy License, 1 Internet Brands Suite License
                Director, WorldSims.org | Gaming Hosting Administrator, SimGames.net, Urban Online Entertainment

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                • #38
                  ...No. vBulletin is larger than phpBB by quite a bit.
                  Omega's Eye- A new way of gaming

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                  • #39
                    Old Tone, are you using wwwboard?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ronoxQ View Post
                      ...No. vBulletin is larger than phpBB by quite a bit.
                      Larger in what way?
                      ManagerJosh, Owner of 4 XenForo Licenses, 1 vBulletin Legacy License, 1 Internet Brands Suite License
                      Director, WorldSims.org | Gaming Hosting Administrator, SimGames.net, Urban Online Entertainment

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                      • #41
                        In terms of size, and in terms of loading time. phpBB is faster. And that applies to about 80% of the pages that I try to visit.
                        Omega's Eye- A new way of gaming

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                        • #42
                          this is so funny to see someone bring some "non-ranking" comparaisons just by the pageload... )
                          oh no, i'm not going with Xenforo... come on, i'm better than that... i stick with Wordpress... rofl

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ronoxQ View Post
                            In terms of size, and in terms of loading time. phpBB is faster. And that applies to about 80% of the pages that I try to visit.
                            Proof?
                            ManagerJosh, Owner of 4 XenForo Licenses, 1 vBulletin Legacy License, 1 Internet Brands Suite License
                            Director, WorldSims.org | Gaming Hosting Administrator, SimGames.net, Urban Online Entertainment

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                            • #44
                              My New Forum

                              Originally posted by 0ptima View Post
                              Old Tone, are you using wwwboard?
                              That is a good question and I don't know the answer. I didn't even own a PC 10 years ago when I had the site designed. The site's designers and hosters have been brilliant over the years.

                              I do know that the Web Forum is an add-on to our main site.

                              Take a look and you will be able to tell me what software is used for our clunky old forum.

                              My site for PHC Horn Mouthpieces is at www.horncups.com

                              Cheers, OLD TONE

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by ManagerJosh View Post
                                Proof?
                                When I was looking for software, I tested on a broadband connection and a 56k modem, using both the default themes and the themes I was interested in using for testing comparisons. phpBB goes approx. 10% faster from my findings, 15% when I'm caching both sites.

                                It's proof that I got myself, which makes it the most accurate readings I can ever find.
                                Omega's Eye- A new way of gaming

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