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  • #16
    Originally posted by digitalpoint View Post
    Even vBSI's staff have given advice to wait until vB5 vs upgrading to vB4 at this point.
    awesome +1

    I know I've advised my clients to wait or go to another script if their tired of the old vb3 look.
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    • #17
      Well, was not meant as a bash to vB4, I use it for a large site and it's fine... and I'm glad I upgraded from vB3 to vB4 even looking back now.

      That being said, I don't want someone to try and say that *I* told people not to upgrade to vB4 (I never have), so I sourced it...

      Originally posted by Lawrence Cole
      If you own a large forum with tons of members and have not moved your community from vb3 then I would say wait for vb5. If you are already on vb4 the priority is bug fixes on our end so that it works as best as it can.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by digitalpoint View Post
        Native Simlinks and VerticalResponse integration? Lol

        The Facebook integration is new to vB4... There really isn't anything major functionality-wise though... So if that's what you are looking for, probably best bet is to wait until vB5.

        Even vBSI's staff have given advice to wait until vB5 vs upgrading to vB4 at this point.
        To be fair, Lawrence withdrew that remark just afterwards.

        Now, whether he withdrew it because he was genuinely incorrect, being new at the job, or whether he withdrew it because he was told to, having revealed something he shouldn't have, only time will tell.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mark.B View Post
          To be fair, Lawrence withdrew that remark just afterwards.

          Now, whether he withdrew it because he was genuinely incorrect, being new at the job, or whether he withdrew it because he was told to, having revealed something he shouldn't have, only time will tell.
          I didn't read the whole thread, I just remember reading it somewhere... As I said earlier, *I* don't run any vB3 site, and I have no complaints about that.

          He probably just didn't know what he was talking about and vB4 should be upgraded to {shrug}... he's also the one that claimed the alpha team was "highly non responsive and unmotivated". Of course he later retracted it and said it was the "other" alpha/beta team. lol
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          • #20
            vB4 doesn't duplicate file attachments like vB3 does. This is an important feature becuase it save a lot of disk space on site that have a lot of attachments.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by digitalpoint View Post
              I didn't read the whole thread, I just remember reading it somewhere... As I said earlier, *I* don't run any vB3 site, and I have no complaints about that.

              He probably just didn't know what he was talking about and vB4 should be upgraded to {shrug}... he's also the one that claimed the alpha team was "highly non responsive and unmotivated". Of course he later retracted it and said it was the "other" alpha/beta team. lol
              Indeed, I think Lawrence made a bigger mess of customer relations than we already had, and that's saying something.

              As far as the whole "should I upgrade to vB4" thing goes, my advice is yes. It's a pretty stable product these days and vB3 looks more old and tired by the day. Sites running stock vB3's are actually becoming off-putting to use.
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              • #22
                In vB4 the tabs in the navbar are a huge improvement over the navbar in vB3. I think vB4 also looks much nicer than vB3.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Andy View Post
                  In vB4 the tabs in the navbar are a huge improvement over the navbar in vB3. I think vB4 also looks much nicer than vB3.
                  I actually agree. The style could do with a little polish and attention to detail here and there but it's aesthetically more pleasing than vB3's and you can do a lot more with it more easily, especially now the stylevars are pretty much sorted out.

                  There's been some much needed attention to minor points in 4.1.10 - for instance, the admin CP no longer refers to "Stylevars" and instead mentions "Style variables". After all, if you're new to this game, what the hell is a "stylevar"? Most people associate them with vB4 yet not everyone realises vB3 had stylevars too. vB4 just made them a bit notorious!
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                  • #24
                    One major improvement with vB4 is the way the CSS is handled. We can now very easily control the way any element of the software looks by making simple CSS changes and placing them into the additional.css template.

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                    • #25
                      One area that has been a huge problem with vB4 is the Search. In vB3 it was easy to use, but in vB4 it's terrible because it's spread over two pages and the defaults make it very difficult to use.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Andy View Post
                        One area that has been a huge problem with vB4 is the Search. In vB3 it was easy to use, but in vB4 it's terrible because it's spread over two pages and the defaults make it very difficult to use.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Mark.B View Post
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                          Hi Mark,

                          My understanding is that Sphinx is only the search engine, it doesn't fix the unfinished and illogical Search interface that vB4 currently has.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Andy View Post
                            Hi Mark,

                            My understanding is that Sphinx is only the search engine, it doesn't fix the unfinished and illogical Search interface that vB4 currently has.
                            Oh sorry, you meant the interface...yes that needs work...though it's not unusable.

                            I found it improved a lot by making the tab that is NOT currently the default, into the default. That seems to confuse people less.
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                            • #29
                              Lawrence sort of withdrew that statement. He still found it true, but said major improvements were coming that would make it worth updating to vb4. So lets see if Internet Brands will agree and upgrade their sites.

                              Originally posted by Mark.B View Post
                              Indeed, I think Lawrence made a bigger mess of customer relations than we already had, and that's saying something.

                              As far as the whole "should I upgrade to vB4" thing goes, my advice is yes. It's a pretty stable product these days and vB3 looks more old and tired by the day. Sites running stock vB3's are actually becoming off-putting to use.
                              I find vb4 looking pretty outdated and tired. Unless you do some serious work on the style. Which brings you to the stylevar system issues.
                              vb4 does not look much more modern than vb3. Its not exactly html5, CSS3 and jquery.

                              How much time did you put into modifying your site its style and behavior? You have added some nice improvements, by borrowing elements from XenForo and IPB.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Alfa1 View Post
                                Lawrence sort of withdrew that statement. He still found it true, but said major improvements were coming that would make it worth updating to vb4. So lets see if Internet Brands will agree and upgrade their sites.


                                I find vb4 looking pretty outdated and tired. Unless you do some serious work on the style. Which brings you to the stylevar system issues.
                                vb4 does not look much more modern than vb3. Its not exactly html5, CSS3 and jquery.

                                How much time did you put into modifying your site its style and behavior? You have added some nice improvements, by borrowing elements from XenForo and IPB.
                                It's not as modern as it could be by any means, but it is better than vB3 looks these days. vB3 looked great in its heyday, but that time is passed.

                                The other aspect of "modern" styles is all the popover and sliding nonsense, which I generally despise.
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