I was looking to renew an old license and went to the order page. Changed quite a bit I see 
In any case I see there is an option to purchase an upgrade to vb4 suite for $250. Now I'm thinking to myself that has GOT to include the forum upgrade as well. But I just want to make sure that's the case.
I mean with all the huffing and puffing I've heard over the CMS not being what it's cracked up to be I can't imagine vb is trying to charge $250 to buy JUST a CMS. Right?

In any case I see there is an option to purchase an upgrade to vb4 suite for $250. Now I'm thinking to myself that has GOT to include the forum upgrade as well. But I just want to make sure that's the case.
I mean with all the huffing and puffing I've heard over the CMS not being what it's cracked up to be I can't imagine vb is trying to charge $250 to buy JUST a CMS. Right?
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