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  • carntheroos4eva
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    Originally posted by the geek View Post
    Couldn't even bring your site up to see. You are missing a very important point though. You can't ask your members to upgrade their browsers because they will never be members if they use IE6. Statistically, IE6 is used by more than Opera, Safari and Chrome.



    Is that on your site with 10 active members?



    All 67 members for your 35 posts?

    You guys make me think of a shop owner refusing to put in disabled parking spaces or providing wheelchair access because none of their 10 customers are disabled. People use IE6 because THEY NEED TO. Larger sites cannot be stupid enough to cut off thousands to millions of their audience per year just because you aren't bothered to lose 10 of your audience members per year. In this advanced web designing tome, it states that you should make the browsing experience consistent across the widest range of browsers possible. If IE6 has too few users to make the cut then you should by rights drop all support for all versions of FF pre 3.5, All versions of Opera, All Chrome and all Safari.
    No simply because they were getting red x's on their screen. It made it look like that the whole thing was broken.
    I don't believe everything I read either dude. Unlike what you do. What you are saying is very old school that is so off the mark possible, that you wouldn't give a rat's about what Microsoft has clearly stated on it's site in the middle of the year that they will be stopping the support for IE 6.
    That's why I simply asked my customers to upgrade from the old browsers to the new ones.
    THere was no arguments about which browser was better. They just went and did it.
    Now to save arguments all the time just do what's asked and upgrade. It would make it a lot easier.
    If you are at a workplace that won't let you upgrade get a petition around the place to get them to upgrade their old technology.

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  • the geek
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    Originally posted by schwab2clarkson View Post
    Jamie,
    None of my members use IE6.

    We all use FF, Opera, IE8 and Chrome.
    Couldn't even bring your site up to see. You are missing a very important point though. You can't ask your members to upgrade their browsers because they will never be members if they use IE6. Statistically, IE6 is used by more than Opera, Safari and Chrome.

    Originally posted by zomega View Post
    Personally I don't care. If members can't do me the favor of upgrading their browser(which is free by the way), than I'm not losing sleep if they can't view my site properly. They could upgrade to the latest version of IE, mozilla firefox, opera, chrome, or a myriad of others completely for free.
    Is that on your site with 10 active members?

    Originally posted by Mike Anime View Post
    so far only .5% of my traffic uses IE 6.
    All 67 members for your 35 posts?

    You guys make me think of a shop owner refusing to put in disabled parking spaces or providing wheelchair access because none of their 10 customers are disabled. People use IE6 because THEY NEED TO. Larger sites cannot be stupid enough to cut off thousands to millions of their audience per year just because you aren't bothered to lose 10 of your audience members per year. In this advanced web designing tome, it states that you should make the browsing experience consistent across the widest range of browsers possible. If IE6 has too few users to make the cut then you should by rights drop all support for all versions of FF pre 3.5, All versions of Opera, All Chrome and all Safari.

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  • JamieinNH
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    Originally posted by zomega View Post
    Just a heads up a lot of your images have the red x's in them, which I assume is what he was referring to.

    Firefox doesn't display the red x's so you might want to look at your site in another browser.
    I just went to my site with IE8, which, other than FF is the only thing I have on my laptop. My desktop is down, hard drive failure. I will have to look tomorrow at work. I work in a hospital and they are tied to IE6 for some reason.

    Where are the x's you're seeing in the articles on the main page?

    btw, I believe their a she..

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  • man1c
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    Originally posted by schwab2clarkson View Post
    Jamie,
    None of my members use IE6.

    We all use FF, Opera, IE8 and Chrome.

    No we have not run vB 4 as yet that's what I am upgrading to. In fact because my url has expired anyway it will have a new domain name.
    So in reality you run some piddling little site that two of your friends visit when you actually have it running - I'm sorry but your opinion means nothing and you aren’t qualified to even enter this debate.

    Some of us have millions of visitors per month and the lack of IE6 compatibility is a huge problem.

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  • zomega
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    Originally posted by JamieinNH View Post
    I personally use the latest version of FF, but whenever I design or create a site I make it standard across the board. So your users upgraded when you installed vb 4.0? Did they do it on their own or did you prompt them because the script doesn't show well in IE6?

    What is your url?
    Just a heads up a lot of your images have the red x's in them, which I assume is what he was referring to.

    Firefox doesn't display the red x's so you might want to look at your site in another browser.

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  • Mike Anime
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    so far only .5% of my traffic uses IE 6.

    I have found most anime fans upgrade their browsers so they can watch their Anime online without glitches.

    Lots of sites refuse to code for IE 6 anymore as it is an outdated browser. infact many filesharing sites, streaming media sites and social networking sites state their sites are best viewed in IE 7 or above. or FF 2.5 or above.

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  • carntheroos4eva
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    Originally posted by JamieinNH View Post
    So you have ran vb 4.0? Did you run the Beta's or RC before Gold? Have your users seen vb 4.0 at all? Just curious if you're speaking having seen it or not.

    Your url is of no matter. You had it in your signature line forever and it's on the other sites you are a member of, the site is currently down, you state you don't have access to the license member area here, so I ask all these questions only because I wonder how you can rate or speak about vb 4.0 if by chance you don't own a license of it.

    It's unimportant I suppose, we each have our own opinions. I would like to keep the 13% that still use IE6 and you would have them either go away, or upgrade. Different strokes for different folks I suppose..
    Jamie,
    None of my members use IE6.

    We all use FF, Opera, IE8 and Chrome.

    No we have not run vB 4 as yet that's what I am upgrading to. In fact because my url has expired anyway it will have a new domain name.

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  • JamieinNH
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    Originally posted by schwab2clarkson View Post
    I am currently upgrading my site. Oh and I don't advertise on here.
    So you have ran vb 4.0? Did you run the Beta's or RC before Gold? Have your users seen vb 4.0 at all? Just curious if you're speaking having seen it or not.

    Your url is of no matter. You had it in your signature line forever and it's on the other sites you are a member of, the site is currently down, you state you don't have access to the license member area here, so I ask all these questions only because I wonder how you can rate or speak about vb 4.0 if by chance you don't own a license of it.

    It's unimportant I suppose, we each have our own opinions. I would like to keep the 13% that still use IE6 and you would have them either go away, or upgrade. Different strokes for different folks I suppose..

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  • carntheroos4eva
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    Originally posted by JamieinNH View Post
    I personally use the latest version of FF, but whenever I design or create a site I make it standard across the board. So your users upgraded when you installed vb 4.0? Did they do it on their own or did you prompt them because the script doesn't show well in IE6?

    What is your url?
    I am currently upgrading my site. Oh and I don't advertise on here.

    I said to my members that if you are having problems seeing my site to upgrade their browser.

    Put it in an announcement. They will oblige.

    I know with your Christianity site doesn't have a lot of members but I am going to suggest that you look up all your church groups that you want and add them. You will be inundated with members all over the new year.
    Last edited by carntheroos4eva; Sun 27 Dec '09, 11:06pm.

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  • JamieinNH
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    Originally posted by schwab2clarkson View Post
    Yep and all of my members upgraded to IE8......
    Anyway what's it to you? I bet that you use something that is so out of date that all you see is red x's....
    I personally use the latest version of FF, but whenever I design or create a site I make it standard across the board. So your users upgraded when you installed vb 4.0? Did they do it on their own or did you prompt them because the script doesn't show well in IE6?

    What is your url?

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  • JamieinNH
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    Originally posted by zomega View Post
    I think it's funny that you are posing this question to this fellow when the site in your signature only has 18 active members. Your spouting off things like weak arguments and trying to make it seem like he doesn't run an active community. But in fact you don't run much of an active community either.

    Oh the tangled webs we weave.
    I asked for a reason, and it wasn't meant to be 'mean" They couldn't get into the licensed Member area of this forum in another thread, so I wanted to know if they had experience with vb 4.0 or were they just talking about it because everyone else was.

    An active community no matter how large or small vs someone that is talking about something they haven't even downloaded or used is entirely different.

    This was the reason for my question to them.

    And about my community.. I have never implied I was a big board or anything near it. I freely and gladly post my url for anyone to visit... by the way, what is the url to your site?

    In fact in a past life I have created a built a huge community that has since sold. I say past life because I am no longer in the porn industry like I once was. I have become a Christian some years ago and although the porn site I had grew quicker than one could imaiage I would take me and my 18 active users any day over a fast and loose site like I once had.

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  • Dilly
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    Yep and all of my members upgraded to IE8......
    Anyway what's it to you? I bet that you use something that is so out of date that all you see is red x's....
    He said active. AFLFooty was never active.

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  • carntheroos4eva
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    Originally posted by t325 View Post
    There are still people out there running Windows 98 and Mac OS 9, and software developers aren't catering to them. At some point, you just have to cut off those who refuse to upgrade.

    In August 2006, with the introduction of the Mac Pro, Apple stopped selling PowerPC Macs. In August 2009, Snow Leopard was released, which does not run on a PPC Mac. Apple supported legacy systems for 3 years.

    It has now been more than 3 years since IE7 came out. If Apple can cut off support for an entire processor architecture in 3 years without many complaints, then vB should be able to cut off support for a browser after 3 years. And there's a big difference between the two; with Macs, to upgrade, you have to buy a whole new computer. With IE, you have to spend 20 minutes of your day to install a free upgrade or Firefox or one of the other alternate browsers.
    Those people wouldn't be able to get any support as Microsoft has stopped supporting those users.
    First Question: How can I let/force my IE6 members to upgrade to IE8?

    Second Question: How can I let/force ALL IE6 visitors to upgrade to IE8?

    Impossible! .. So, sorry vB, I cannot upgrade my forum to 4.0!

    Waiting for 5.0!!
    What a boring person you are.....
    You get told to by microsoft. Why don't you look up the articles on the microsoft website and stop being so damn stubborn and pigheaded about it.

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  • carntheroos4eva
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    Originally posted by JamieinNH View Post
    Do you run a community running VB? Just curious because it seems it's always easy to tell me to have their users to upgrade when one, they don't run a community themselves, or their community is so small it doesn't matter.

    The Geek has brought up very valid points and several of these threads and as of yet the VB Team has yet to weigh in. It's not a simple matter of people upgrading, it's the simple fact that some in the VB Team think it's ok to blow off 10% of our users.

    I wonder how many people would be saying.. ah, just upgrade if Microsoft's next OS didn't run any of their current programs and you have to buy the latest OS to run Office again....

    Weak arguments won't fix this problem and until the VB Team chimes in and tells us what they were thinking and why they did it the way they did, they should be held responsible for this mess.

    So tell me, do you run an active community running VB?
    Yep and all of my members upgraded to IE8......
    Anyway what's it to you? I bet that you use something that is so out of date that all you see is red x's....

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  • t325
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    Originally posted by BoYagoob View Post
    First Question: How can I let/force my IE6 members to upgrade to IE8?

    Second Question: How can I let/force ALL IE6 visitors to upgrade to IE8?

    Impossible! .. So, sorry vB, I cannot upgrade my forum to 4.0!

    Waiting for 5.0!!
    There are still people out there running Windows 98 and Mac OS 9, and software developers aren't catering to them. At some point, you just have to cut off those who refuse to upgrade.

    In August 2006, with the introduction of the Mac Pro, Apple stopped selling PowerPC Macs. In August 2009, Snow Leopard was released, which does not run on a PPC Mac. Apple supported legacy systems for 3 years.

    It has now been more than 3 years since IE7 came out. If Apple can cut off support for an entire processor architecture in 3 years without many complaints, then vB should be able to cut off support for a browser after 3 years. And there's a big difference between the two; with Macs, to upgrade, you have to buy a whole new computer. With IE, you have to spend 20 minutes of your day to install a free upgrade or Firefox or one of the other alternate browsers.

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