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Originally posted by Delifed View PostWhy pay, I've reported about 9 sites using nulled vbulletin and nothing has happened. also im tried of people posting nulled vbulletin all over the web something needs to be done.
I know i've ran nulled vbulleitn once or twice to see features and stuff and thats what made me get it. But its getting sad that nothing gets done.
Im just saying cause i went on a site (won't name but it has team in it and has .info) and guess what i could get vbulletin 4 gold for free the hull bundle. Wow 4 hours and its already nulled and posted come-on do something.
Remember you aren't the internet police, and you get nothing for reporting these nulled sites or sites that distribute them, unless of course it excites you some and then I guess whatever, but I can think of better things to do than someone elses job that gets paid for it.
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Originally posted by nforums View PostJust because everyone is out stealing cars, does that mean you're going to also. It's called morals, thats why you pay.
There isn't much that can be done to that site obviously or else it already would have been. They are probably in a country that doesn't obey US law, and nothing will ever be done about it.
Remember you aren't the internet police, and you get nothing for reporting these nulled sites or sites that distribute them, unless of course it excites you some and then I guess whatever, but I can think of better things to do than someone elses job that gets paid for it.
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Originally posted by Delifed View Postyes i know but it ruins the hull point of paying to use it.
If you are not a thief, then the whole point of paying to use it is that you, well, get to use it. And you get the support that only licensed customers get. That's something, isn't it?
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Originally posted by razing View PostThat's true only if you believe that the whole point of paying to use vB is that everyone else is paying, too.
If you are not a thief, then the whole point of paying to use it is that you, well, get to use it. And you get the support that only licensed customers get. That's something, isn't it?
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Delifed you immature child!
Originally posted by Delifed View PostYea support is something, but they can ask licensed users to go here and post for a fix. I've seen this happen a few times.
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What's the point of buying a car? There is at least one successful car thief out there. What's the point of paying for cable, tons of people get away with stealing it. Honestly, you name something, and it's probably been stolen and there's at least one successful guy doing it. If you are going to talk about odds, go and steal a piece of fruit from a grocery store, I'm willing to be you won't be caught, it's a one in a billion chance you'll get caught with an apple in your pocket. You want to lower the chances more, go steal a single grape, and yes there are people who do that too, are you going to stop paying for fruit for the rest of your life because you can potentially steal grapes here and there and avoid paying?
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This is my first post to this Forum! Been a Vbulletin user for exactly 1 day now!
I have to update my profile still. But a quick introduction. My name is Mike. I am from Wainwright, Alberta, Canada. 40 years old. Wife and a 10 yr old daughter, 8 yr old son.
I downloaded a Nulled version of Vbulletin 4 last week. Used Bittorrent.
Why did I do this? Because I wanted to purchase the Software and I knew I could not because my Credit Card was at its limit. So, I made a payment to my Credit Card middle of last week. It always takes a few business days for a payment to get credited to my Credit Card account. But I could not wait to play with Vbulletin! My payment showed up on the weekend and I purchased it yesterday. Just in time to still get in on the Pre Sale!
I downloaded Vbulletin from the Members area. I deleted the database and all of the Vbulletin files from my server (The illegal copy). Then I installed the legal version.
Why did I purchase it when I had the nulled version? Because I am treating my Forum as a serious business. I have some big plans for my Forum and it is going to grow rapidly. The $235 purchase price is going to be peanuts compared to the amount that I am going to make from my site. I have several years of experience with building web sites and generating revenue from them. Mainly from Affiliate marketing and Adsense. Oddly enough, I have no experience with Forums. I've been around Internet marketers long enough to know how they use their Forums to make money. Search Engines love Forums! Fresh, relevant and always updated content.
The Support and Members area is worth it. If I have a problem, I don't have to ask my friend to ask his friends Mothers cousin who happened to purchase it to ask Support the questions for me. When an update is released, I know about it right away and I just go to the members area to get it. I don't have to hunt for it. Not like it is hard to find an illegal copy. Just do a Google search and you'll easily find one. Also, you don't know if the illegal copy has been tampered with. Think about it. Vbulletin obviously uses the Internet. A skilled programmer could alter some of the files to run a script that passes sensitive information back to their server. I had previously created a PHP script to do just that with a Software program that I had developed. Nothing to do with Vbulletin. And I am far from a skilled PHP programmer. And it worked better than I expected!
These are just some of the reasons to purchase the Software rather than use it illegally. I could list several others.
Am I bitter that I paid for it when others download it illegally? Not at all! I had it in my hands before I paid for it. I could have continued to use it illegally if I really wanted to. Like I mentioned, there are many more reasons to pay for it other than moral values.
And before I read this thread, I had no idea that you could go to a site that uses Vbulletin and tell if it is pirated or not!
MikeWainwright, Alberta, Canada & Surrounding areas Community Forum
www.WainwrightForum.com
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Originally posted by MikeLac View PostThis is my first post to this Forum! Been a Vbulletin user for exactly 1 day now!
I have to update my profile still. But a quick introduction. My name is Mike. I am from Wainwright, Alberta, Canada. 40 years old. Wife and a 10 yr old daughter, 8 yr old son.
I downloaded a Nulled version of Vbulletin 4 last week. Used Bittorrent.
Why did I do this? Because I wanted to purchase the Software and I knew I could not because my Credit Card was at its limit. So, I made a payment to my Credit Card middle of last week. It always takes a few business days for a payment to get credited to my Credit Card account. But I could not wait to play with Vbulletin! My payment showed up on the weekend and I purchased it yesterday. Just in time to still get in on the Pre Sale!
I downloaded Vbulletin from the Members area. I deleted the database and all of the Vbulletin files from my server (The illegal copy). Then I installed the legal version.
Why did I purchase it when I had the nulled version? Because I am treating my Forum as a serious business. I have some big plans for my Forum and it is going to grow rapidly. The $235 purchase price is going to be peanuts compared to the amount that I am going to make from my site. I have several years of experience with building web sites and generating revenue from them. Mainly from Affiliate marketing and Adsense. Oddly enough, I have no experience with Forums. I've been around Internet marketers long enough to know how they use their Forums to make money. Search Engines love Forums! Fresh, relevant and always updated content.
The Support and Members area is worth it. If I have a problem, I don't have to ask my friend to ask his friends Mothers cousin who happened to purchase it to ask Support the questions for me. When an update is released, I know about it right away and I just go to the members area to get it. I don't have to hunt for it. Not like it is hard to find an illegal copy. Just do a Google search and you'll easily find one. Also, you don't know if the illegal copy has been tampered with. Think about it. Vbulletin obviously uses the Internet. A skilled programmer could alter some of the files to run a script that passes sensitive information back to their server. I had previously created a PHP script to do just that with a Software program that I had developed. Nothing to do with Vbulletin. And I am far from a skilled PHP programmer. And it worked better than I expected!
These are just some of the reasons to purchase the Software rather than use it illegally. I could list several others.
Am I bitter that I paid for it when others download it illegally? Not at all! I had it in my hands before I paid for it. I could have continued to use it illegally if I really wanted to. Like I mentioned, there are many more reasons to pay for it other than moral values.
And before I read this thread, I had no idea that you could go to a site that uses Vbulletin and tell if it is pirated or not!
Mike
However, don't get your hopes up in being big. We have LOTS of members, who think they can get rich with forums..... Majority of them do not make much. Not trying to blow your bubble here, but don't expect it will be easy. To many members here have had their dreams broken.
It's best to use the forum niche as a hobby.. at least that way you can't fail.
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Originally posted by FreshFroot_ View PostGood to see another legal license holder.
However, don't get your hopes up in being big. We have LOTS of members, who think they can get rich with forums..... Majority of them do not make much. Not trying to blow your bubble here, but don't expect it will be easy. To many members here have had their dreams broken.
It's best to use the forum niche as a hobby.. at least that way you can't fail.
I live in a city called Wainwright. I'm fairly well known. So, my Forum is going to be a Wainwright and surrounding Communities Forum. Organizations can list their community events, businesses can post about their business, etc. A well known Realtor in the Wainwright area is going to have his own section on the Forum for Wainwright and area Real Estate. An Ask the expert type. He is very well known and has a lot of connections. But the Forum would quickly get boring if it was only about Wainwright business and community events. There will be many more topics.
Before I even think of telling others about the Forum, I am going to be very busy making many posts and creating lots of articles. First impressions! It will be a little awkward when it first launches just because there isn't going to be that many members right at the beginning. Kind of like walking into an empty building. Every Forum starts out that way. Can't have 50,000 members without getting member number 2 and 3 first! Anyone can create a Forum and get members to sign up. But the trick is to get those members to keep coming back. But the real trick is to provide the members with a lot of Fantastic information so that they can't wait to tell their friends about it. Word of mouth advertising is the best kind. Free!
I will make sure to post about my Forum as an example of how others can make a successful Forum. But that will be at least 6 Months from now. I'm one of the few that is willing to invest a tremendous amount of time in order to provide my Members with a ton of top quality useful information to make them want to keep coming back day after day.
By the way, the new features of 4.0 is what pushed me over the edge in deciding to finally start a Forum. I've used article marketing to drive traffic to my sites for several years. I'm all about Content. Useful, relevant content. The content features of 4.0 has me drooling right now!Last edited by MikeLac; Mon 21 Dec '09, 10:44pm.Wainwright, Alberta, Canada & Surrounding areas Community Forum
www.WainwrightForum.com
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Originally posted by Delifed View PostLol thats if they catch you which they never do.
If you haven't bought a license and you are running boards that run and use vB.com software you will get shutdown and possibly locked up by police for piracy.Aussiefootyforums
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I was running a nulled version to try it out... Apparantly I tried it out too long LOL, I got caught. But the folks here were nice enough to let me buy a license after being caught with my hand in the cookie jar. That has resulted in 28 bought licenses for vbulletin since then for my clients. They could have strung me up, but instead they made 28 more customers.
I learned my lesson but GOOD lol. Im sure there are others here that are now legal that got caught too and wont admit it.
Besides it being the right thing to do...... there is a saying ........ "The mill grinds slow, but grinds exceedingly fine" plus you sleep better at night not waiting on the email you get from the gentleman they hired to come after you.
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Originally posted by Delifed View PostWell thats were people get off-shore hosting.
But what im trying to get to is that nulling vbulletin is starting to rise and it only takes about 1 hour to null and release.
Originally posted by Delifed View PostWell then why bother paying? Thats what im getting at.
Originally posted by Delifed View PostWell then why bother paying? Thats what im getting at.
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