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Originally posted by NyCwill View PostThat sucks! Is there any major issue with 3.8.0.. if not i guess ill just stick with it.
The only problem I see with this that if you wanted to add the cms to your forum you wouldn't be able to as you haven't upgraded. So upgrade and then you will be able to download the cms suiteAussiefootyforums
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Wish we could get clarification on this
I have no plans to go with 4.0 but would like to have access to newer versions of 3.8
If they are changing to a license structure to one that lasts the lifetime of that version, they should retroactively do the same to 3.8, its only fair
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Originally posted by Swampfox View PostWish we could get clarification on this
I have no plans to go with 4.0 but would like to have access to newer versions of 3.8
If they are changing to a license structure to one that lasts the lifetime of that version, they should retroactively do the same to 3.8, its only fair------------------------------------------
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Originally posted by blackberry View Posti also don't want to upgrade 4.0
and its not fair to pay for 4.0 upgrade if u want to stick with 3.8 patches etc.
Vb team should think about that and give renew option to owned license users
Unfortunately after being a customer here practically since vBulletin started selling product, I've had to use other forum software for all of our new clients. Like you, for our existing forums, we only needed the forum and the few updates we have a right to receive as a customer of the product. We would not consider any switch for a while, especially since there are many integrations and vBulletin 4 is nowhere near stable. When you have multiple licenses, the cost to force users to pay $175 or $190 is considerable and they wanted us to spend it all at one time during the surprise two week presale.
Imagine the unhappy clients who were told to use vBulletin and then had to pay a large sum of money for this "presale" just a few months later since the price to upgrade later would be astronomical, buying a new product practically. Some of these clients are well financed and it wasn't about the money but the principle - charge you one day and then, without notice, change gears and ask you to pull out your credit card again for the price of new software. For the same price they have switched to another forum software, are actually happier given the way it works and are getting great results.
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is that $175 for the upgrade a one time fee? what about upgrades and support them? I realize that $40 renewal option is gone.
Have been out of vB news for quite some time and was recently brought the news about 4.0. So just a bit confused. Read through the thread and I see how some people are confused an unhappy.
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Originally posted by njoker555 View Postis that $175 for the upgrade a one time fee? what about upgrades and support them? I realize that $40 renewal option is gone.
Have been out of vB news for quite some time and was recently brought the news about 4.0. So just a bit confused. Read through the thread and I see how some people are confused an unhappy.
Now you understand why so many reasonable, supporting customers are absolutely furious and probably will be for a very long time.
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When I bought the owned license I guess I missed that in the fine print. I thought buying a owned license got me free updates, even whole new versions, but I only had to pay the annual fee to keep it updated. So then after I found out that I had to buy another owned license for 4.0 I was unsettled. Then I hear (possibly a rumor?) that in about 18 months Vbulletin 5.0 would be out, and that we would have to buy another owned license.
What really bothers me is that the new version is $195 while the upgrade is $175, only a $20 price difference. I do understand where Vbulletin is coming from, at least on a certain level, is that 4.0 and other totally new versions are complete re-writes of the code, so it's a completely new software. So with that, sure charge a bit more I guess, but I think the people who already owned a license and who have been loyal contributors and purchasers of the software should be entitled to more than a $20 savings for upgrading. When I notice other major software developers, such as Adobe who sell new versions and their upgrades are 1/4 the cost (CS4 new $699, upgrade $199) I think that model should be used in conjunction with how Vbulletin sells their software. Totally and utterly new Vbulletin for a first-time purchaser, sure $195 (example), while the upgrade for already owned licenses would be about $49... that I can agree with.
To be honest, a part of the reason why I'm up in arms, it seems like life is pooping on me lol. Lost my job, so I thought to myself, ok I can work on my website and finish it off with the unconditional spare time I have at the moment, then I come here to find out I have to spend a couple hundred bucks of what I don't have anymore due to the economy. But, I guess that's life.
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I have license (paid) for vbulletin 3.x.x and separate license (paid) for vbblog 2.xx.x
Now i can upgrade only forum with vb4 and in sametime lose all my blog articles and posts ... or buy vb4 suite and i will get vbblog and CMS (but i do not want CMS...will never use that) ...
Will just say that vbulletin should make option for customers to make choice ....
i want forum and vbblog ...and i paid for that (separate) before ... and do not need suite and CMS...
Very bad from you from vbulletin and no honesty ...
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Originally posted by tiberonmagnus View PostI thought buying a owned license got me free updates, even whole new versions, but I only had to pay the annual fee to keep it updated. So then after I found out that I had to buy another owned license for 4.0 I was unsettled. Then I hear (possibly a rumor?) that in about 18 months Vbulletin 5.0 would be out, and that we would have to buy another owned license.
What really bothers me is that the new version is $195 while the upgrade is $175, only a $20 price difference. I do understand where Vbulletin is coming from, at least on a certain level
When I notice other major software developers, such as Adobe who sell new versions and their upgrades are 1/4 the cost (CS4 new $699, upgrade $199)... <snip>... then I come here to find out I have to spend a couple hundred bucks of what I don't have anymore due to the economy. But, I guess that's life.
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Originally posted by squall14716 View PostBecause 3.8.4 PL2 is not considered to be a new version - it's considered to be 3.8.4 and anyone who could get 3.8.4 can get PL2.
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vBulletin should shame ... no serius more ... if they need money ...should write that ... i get answer from support about question for my vbblog which i paid like separte product and if i upgrade my forum (3.8.4 PL2) will lose all my blog posts - i must buy suite -NEVER
answer from vbulletin:
Hello,We are no longer offering the blog as a separate product. If you'd like to use the blog with vBulletin 4 you'll need to purchase a 4.0 license.
Will found another solutions ... and will say to all customers ... buy nothing ...when i buy blog , nobody says to me that in future it will not be separate product. Shame - vbuletin!
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bosss
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