Well, I admit, I had similar reservations without a release date, but after mulling it over and researching the forum boards... i bit. Renewed both my licenses... main reason, I can't wait for this feature to be implemented down the road:
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Originally posted by slinky View PostWhat discount did you get? What does this have to do with the discussion? Are you posting in the right thread? If you're talking about a 3 year vb4 life cycle then I hope you don't come down soon from what you're smoking or else you'll sober up when the credit card bill is due, lol!!! If the product life cycle for vB 4 is 8 years, you'll have saved 200% over the previous licensing too! woot!
1 - I purchased under the pre-order discount, that was valid through today,...
2 - It has to do with "Why pay now??"
3 - Not smoking anything, and credit card payment is already paid up in full every month.
4 - If I pre paid for vB4 now, long before it comes out Gold, and I get to get all my 3.8 up to date, and lets say its six months before 4.0 Gold comes out, then my license already consumed six months.
5 - If vB4 comes out in six months, and then maybe vB4.1 or vB4.2 later on through the year, and vB4 ends up with a 1.5 year life cycle, as you have guessed at, then so far I have had an active licenses for my sites for two full years. (but lets assume with reason the average life cycle of the prior revisions, and that vB3 lasted through vB3.8, so my guess of longer than a year or year and a half, is better than yours in realistic terms)
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I bought now. I simply told my members about the unexpected VB price increase and that we would have some cool stuff when it does release around the end of this year. They ponied up the cash, I paid for tie discounted price for VB4 suite. No biggie.
I like the idea of no annual maintenance fees. If it takes them 3 years to come out with VB 5, which I predict it will, then in the long run it's a wash as far as total cost goes.
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The OP wanted good reasons to buy now instead of later when there is "no clear release date". I wrestled with this also and ended up buying. Why? Because there is no clear "expiration date". And to me that is the difference here. Under the old structure you would be right to worry since the renewal was only good for a year. So renewing/upgrading now may only get you six months of an active license by the time it's released and implemented on your site. Now, with no annual renewals that point is mute. Whether you upgrade now or six months from now, your license will still be good for the life cycle of vBulletin 4. Upgrading now saves you some cash without changing the end of life on your investment.
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Originally posted by smirkley View PostI upgraded my expired licenses this week and captured the discount.
What I ended up getting for my money is my expired out of date software updated to the latest 3.8, active support re-enabled, guarenteed access to the latest vB4 when it is released, and upgrades through the whole life cycle of the vB4 product, no matter if it lasts a year, or three.
I kinda think I really gotta deal.
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I upgraded my expired licenses this week and captured the discount.
What I ended up getting for my money is my expired out of date software updated to the latest 3.8, active support re-enabled, guarenteed access to the latest vB4 when it is released, and upgrades through the whole life cycle of the vB4 product, no matter if it lasts a year, or three.
I kinda think I really gotta deal.
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Originally posted by Arkham View PostWhy? Just because you happen to have an inactive license? You were warned, you didn't heed the warning (or common sense), so you are paying (or not paying) a completely legitimate price.
I haven't had an active forum but I've kept an active license for years in order to stay current. Why didn't you renew?
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Originally posted by tormodg View PostYes, usually. But IMHO it has been clear in this pre-sale that there is no guaranteed release date. But not everyone agrees on this point of course.
Yeah, I have asked about that as well and not received a response. Either the "new" price is too low or the "upgrade" price is way too high (when looking at the post-presale prices).
Well, it has been in beta for a while. Internet Brands' lack of a roadmap has been a problem for a long time. I think they are coming around on it from what I read in another thread here, but it has caused a lot of confusion.
In general I think IB could have handled the information aspect much better in this presale, and avoided a lot of confusion. But the price setting is up to IB and while it can seem confusing it really is crystal clear: The new prices makes the entry cost basically the same as the upgrade cost. But before there *was* no upgrade cost, only annual fees.
I'm not complaining, just stating the facts after piecing together the numbers.
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Originally posted by Arkham View PostWhy? Just because you happen to have an inactive license? You were warned, you didn't heed the warning (or common sense), so you are paying (or not paying) a completely legitimate price.
I haven't had an active forum but I've kept an active license for years in order to stay current. Why didn't you renew?
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Originally posted by FreshFroot_ View PostShouldn't the difference from an active and inactive license be within $40? why is there a difference of $70 for inactive users? Do you know how many users with owned inactive licenses will just be turned away from this price? That's basically saying your support means crap to us.
Originally posted by akonze View PostYou are truly believing this, right? Man, where do you live? Behind the moon? I have seen hundreds of companies publishing clear release dates and, guess what, in fact releasing exactly at that date. Take Microsoft Windows 7 i.e.
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Originally posted by slinky View Post- I'm given prior notice about the sale and time to take time to first understand all the options
I am given a certain date when buying the current version entitles me to a free upgrade without paying another upgrade fee
My upgrade cost is usually never more than 50% of the purchase price for a new license (not almost 90% as it is here)
The software has already been in beta testing and there is a reasonably good estimate as to when it is expected to come out, not user speculation
In general I think IB could have handled the information aspect much better in this presale, and avoided a lot of confusion. But the price setting is up to IB and while it can seem confusing it really is crystal clear: The new prices makes the entry cost basically the same as the upgrade cost. But before there *was* no upgrade cost, only annual fees.
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I may add I also run my own business and have always been very wary of " Future Trading " it just puts way too much presure on resources to deliver..
I could see the logic in paying now at the reduced rate if vB4 Beta 1 ( In use here now ) was available to use now on the undestanding it is a BETA version and should be treat as so.
But if I put a sign in my shop window stating, Pay me now and I will deliver your new PC sometime in the next few months, I would probably get my shop windows smashed to bits...
Joe Public want to see something that they are parting with cash for, reasonably I would say...
Regards..
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Originally posted by akonze View PostYou are truly believing this, right? Man, where do you live? Behind the moon? I have seen hundreds of companies publishing clear release dates and, guess what, in fact releasing exactly at that date. Take Microsoft Windows 7 i.e.
Windows 7 RTM was released months before the public release - it was sitting there completely finished so of course it was released on time.
vBulletin 4 is still a fair bit away from completion, as this beta site proves.
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Originally posted by FreshFroot_ View PostShouldn't the difference from an active and inactive license be within $40? why is there a difference of $70 for inactive users? Do you know how many users with owned inactive licenses will just be turned away from this price? That's basically saying your support means crap to us.
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