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  • tickedon
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    Originally posted by slinky View Post
    There is no guarantee of this and it is misinformation. A major version upgrade is just a number. No one, even Jelsoft will (or probably can) guarantee whether version 5 is coming out 2 years after version 4 or just six months later.
    Jelsoft certainly can't, given they no longer own the rights to vBulletin.

    No-one to guarantee a v5 release date, but we can go based on the information we've been given by vB staff. It's not misinformation, it's communicating information to other customers that is easily missed.

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  • slinky
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    Originally posted by ra87 View Post
    Also remember, now that they have changed their price structure, the quicker they get to the new major release's, the more money they get So DO expect to see them in around 2 years time, and not the 4-5 years time that you seem you be expecting.
    There is no guarantee of this and it is misinformation. A major version upgrade is just a number. No one, even Jelsoft will (or probably can) guarantee whether version 5 is coming out 2 years after version 4 or just six months later.

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  • Duramax 6.6L
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    I think that they are getting a little pricey on their product. 70.00 a year and the basically jumping to 125.00 a year.

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  • ra87
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    Originally posted by David Copeland View Post

    Thanks for the tip.

    I just looked back at the archives here when I first bought nearly 10years ago with Version 1. Promises of "knocking on the door" of the next major revision have been made ever since. And all of those promises were broken. In fact, Version 4.0 was promised earlier this year.

    18 months from last June seems way too short, unless VB monkeys with mid-updates and makes them into full versions just to have a reason to ask for more money. If so, there will be another wrath of customer outrage.

    If I get 2 years out of Ver 4, then that's $65/yr
    3 years would average $40 or so

    Who knows. I don't even think VB knows for sure what they will be working on in the next 18 months. My guess would be to further stabilize Ver 4 with unforeseen errors and issues to come.
    Just remember, the suite upgrade when v5 is released will be $250.

    Also remember, now that they have changed their price structure, the quicker they get to the new major release's, the more money they get So DO expect to see them in around 2 years time, and not the 4-5 years time that you seem you be expecting.

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  • David Copeland
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    Originally posted by tickedon View Post
    Ray said previously in June 2009 they wanted to be knocking on the door of vB5 in 18 months. The link to the post is in the FAQ linked in my signature.

    I would not expect another 3-4 year development cycle for v5 after v4.
    Thanks for the tip.

    I just looked back at the archives here when I first bought nearly 10years ago with Version 1. Promises of "knocking on the door" of the next major revision have been made ever since. And all of those promises were broken. In fact, Version 4.0 was promised earlier this year.

    18 months from last June seems way too short, unless VB monkeys with mid-updates and makes them into full versions just to have a reason to ask for more money. If so, there will be another wrath of customer outrage.

    If I get 2 years out of Ver 4, then that's $65/yr
    3 years would average $40 or so

    Who knows. I don't even think VB knows for sure what they will be working on in the next 18 months. My guess would be to further stabilize Ver 4 with unforeseen errors and issues to come.

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  • tickedon
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    Ray said previously in June 2009 they wanted to be knocking on the door of vB5 in 18 months. The link to the post is in the FAQ linked in my signature.

    I would not expect another 3-4 year development cycle for v5 after v4.

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  • Average annual cost still remains at $35/year when paying $130 now?

    So if I purchase the pre-sale for Ver 4.0 at $130.00, I will no longer have to pay the annual (was $35/yr) for approximately the next 3-4 years (when Version 5 comes out)?

    The math tells me that a MAJOR RELEASE VERSION from Ver 1.0 to Ver 2.0, and Ver 2.0 to Ver 3.0, and Ver 3.0 to Ver 4.0 - TAKES AT LEAST 3-4 years?

    If so, then my one price of $130, divided by $35/year - comes out to an average close to nearly 4 years - which is the SAME AVERAGE ANNUAL COST, isn't it???

    (Not as bad as I first thought, only Vbulletin gets my cash up front for the next 3-4 years instead of me making smaller payments each year).

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    Is VBulletin hurting for cash this year in a sour economy? You will certainly get a minority of customers (me included) who will pay the $130, but the majority, in my opinion, will not pay.

    There is a quote worth repeating:

    If Seller wants Price, then Buyer gets terms ($35/year for 4 years)
    If Buyer wants Price, then Seller gets terms ($130 now)


    If this is true, and VB does not need the cash. then VBulletin would earn the SAME INCOME for Version 4.0 by keeping Version 5.0 under wraps for 4 years.

    How about it?

    David
    (Fan of VB)
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