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    My forte is hammering on rocks (geology) not hammering out html or php. My forum is maintained after working hours. I anticipate that it will take me months to implement the transition, if I move from vBulletin 3.7.4 to 4.0.

    If I upgrade now, and if I can figure out how to do this, can I purchase another domain for temporary use, or just use a subdomain, and run two forums with the same content, but one using my old vB version and the other the new 4.0 version.

    Nobody but me would know where the new forum is located. I could tweak it as I have time until it is acceptable, and then move the 4.0 version to the old domain.

    I don't know whether I'm making sense or not.
    1. Is there a "how to" on this sort of thing for those of us who don't spend much time coding?
    2. If I upgrade to v. 4, will I be licensed to run both the old 3.7.4 and the new 3.4 on the same hosting service, using the same content?
    3. I have never previously upgraded due to time constraints.
    4. Help and advise will be most appreciated.

    Multiple domains and the license agreement
    Per the license agreement, you are only allowed one instance of vBulletin on one domain per vBulletin license - http://www.vbulletin.com/order/license_agreement.php

    Quote:
    vBulletin licence grants you the right to run one instance (a single installation) of the Software on one web server and one web site for each licence purchased. Each licence may power one instance of the Software on one domain. For each installed instance of the Software, a separate licence is required.Modifications to the software or database to circumvent the one-license-one-board rule are prohibited.
    There are many questions that come up regarding running multiple forums on multiple domains using the same installation. The part of the license agreement in question here is - Each licence may power one instance of the Software on one domain. One instance means one forum, one installation, and one set of content. One domain means exactly that - however, there are exceptions to the one domain rule.

    Specific cases:
    1. Your forum is accessable from multiple domains but the content is the same for each link. This is OK and does not require multiple licenses. My site is an example of a multi-domain setup that is allowed:

      http://www.mscclan.com/forum/
      http://www.macsubculture.com/forum/
      http://www.mac-gamer.com/forum/

      Notice how each domain points to exactly the same content.
    2. Your forum is accessable from multiple domains but each domain shows a different forum style. This is OK and does not require multiple licenses.
    3. Your forum is accessable from multiple domains and your forums are configured to show/hide certain forums based on the domain. This is not OK and requires an active vBulletin license for each domain. In this situation the forums appear to have separate content thereby making them separate forums in the eyes of the license agreement. Your forum content needs to be the same for each domain in order to qualify as a single forum.
    The underlying question here is, do the different links appear as separate forums? If so then multiple licenses are required.

    Separating content and forum styles by using subforums and forumdisplay links within a single domain is allowed because that functionality is built-in to vBulletin.

  • #2
    You can run second instance of the script, preffered is /testvb/ directory, secured by .htaccess password or something simillar.
    We have development installation here, with full database copy.
    What is worth mentioning, test forum will be sloooooow train. If visited by only few, lot of user triggered crons fires at once.

    Regards

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ANGLICO View Post
      Per the license agreement, you are only allowed one instance of vBulletin on one domain per vBulletin license - http://www.vbulletin.com/order/license_agreement.php

      Quote:
      vBulletin licence grants you the right to run one instance (a single installation) of the Software on one web server and one web site for each licence purchased. Each licence may power one instance of the Software on one domain. For each installed instance of the Software, a separate licence is required.Modifications to the software or database to circumvent the one-license-one-board rule are prohibited.
      There are many questions that come up regarding running multiple forums on multiple domains using the same installation. The part of the license agreement in question here is - Each licence may power one instance of the Software on one domain. One instance means one forum, one installation, and one set of content. One domain means exactly that - however, there are exceptions to the one domain rule.

      Specific cases:
      1. Your forum is accessable from multiple domains but the content is the same for each link. This is OK and does not require multiple licenses. My site is an example of a multi-domain setup that is allowed:

        http://www.mscclan.com/forum/
        http://www.macsubculture.com/forum/
        http://www.mac-gamer.com/forum/

        Notice how each domain points to exactly the same content.
      2. Your forum is accessable from multiple domains but each domain shows a different forum style. This is OK and does not require multiple licenses.
      3. Your forum is accessable from multiple domains and your forums are configured to show/hide certain forums based on the domain. This is not OK and requires an active vBulletin license for each domain. In this situation the forums appear to have separate content thereby making them separate forums in the eyes of the license agreement. Your forum content needs to be the same for each domain in order to qualify as a single forum.

      The underlying question here is, do the different links appear as separate forums? If so then multiple licenses are required.

      Separating content and forum styles by using subforums and forumdisplay links within a single domain is allowed because that functionality is built-in to vBulletin.
      Where does that extended 'multi-domain' explanation come from?

      I can't see it in the license agreement but would like to be able to quote it, if it is indeed true.

      http://www.vbulletin.com/order/license_agreement.php now says
      Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, vBulletin Solutions grants to you a limited, non-exclusive, worldwide license to install, download and use a single instance of the Software on a single website server ("License") through a single installation. Each License may run one instance of the Software on one domain. Any modification of the Software intended to circumvent the foregoing is prohibited and will result in revocation of the License.
      My Live vB5 Site - NZEating.com
      vBulletin Hosting | vBulletin Services - Need hosting for your vB? Need it installed? Something else? Let me take that hassle off your hands.

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      • #4
        Thank you

        Thanks for the responses.

        Also, thank you vBulletin support staff for walking me through the ordering process for v. 4.

        Finally, I became aware of an available service to impement the upgrade for $150, for me a good option. I was advised to wait until the "Gold" version was out before paying the $150 to make the switch. This may be after the Nov 3 expiration of my current v. 3.7.x, but I'll wait.

        I still don't know what I get for the $150. Will all my forum settings, colors, user settings, etc be transferred? Will I receive any advice for replacing the several "mods?"

        Overall, I'm developing a better comfort factor regarding this move, thanks to some good responses from the support team. They didn't pay me to say this, but donations are accepted!

        Thanks again.

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        • #5
          I still don't know what I get for the $150. Will all my forum settings, colors, user settings, etc be transferred? Will I receive any advice for replacing the several "mods?"
          You would have the software installed over the top of your current install. Threads/Forums/Members/Posts etc would come across.

          There would be no transfer of styles or modifications.
          My Live vB5 Site - NZEating.com
          vBulletin Hosting | vBulletin Services - Need hosting for your vB? Need it installed? Something else? Let me take that hassle off your hands.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ANGLICO View Post
            I still don't know what I get for the $150. Will all my forum settings, colors, user settings, etc be transferred? Will I receive any advice for replacing the several "mods?"
            Basically, they will uninstall/disable your modifications, upload the new files, and run the install script. It's an easy task that can be carried out by anyone in less than an hour.

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            • #7
              thanks

              looks like I'll have to learn some things

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