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Originally posted by RobParker View PostTranslations provided by Google.
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Originally posted by Wayne Luke View PostYou'll only need to pay if you want to upgrade to vBulletin 5.X. You'll be able to continue running vBulletin 4.X even after 5.0 is released. This is the predominant software licensing model in the world.
I now know exactly the sort of company IB is, and it's not a pleasant one. I've seen their sort before, and I don't do business with them if I can at all avoid it. They would sell your granny for an extra dollar.
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Originally posted by Wayne Luke View PostYou'll only need to pay if you want to upgrade to vBulletin 5.X. You'll be able to continue running vBulletin 4.X even after 5.0 is released. This is the predominant software licensing model in the world.
It is similar to WinXP, Win Vista, Win7.., only thing is sudden transsition which could be handled much more painless.
For instance, while priceing model now seems to be more reasonable, estimated time is still not out there (officialy) and due to the fact priceing model was changed, this should be even more careful taken with more time to pre-buy after demo is online.
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Originally posted by Wayne Luke View PostYou'll be able to continue running vBulletin 4.X even after 5.0 is released.
In reality any definition of "running" has to include the ability to download updates/bug fixes/security patches.
Previous replies have suggested that the support for VB4 updates with a VB4 license will end once VB5 is out.
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Originally posted by RobParker View PostDoes that include being able to update VB4.x once VB5.0 is out?
In reality any definition of "running" has to include the ability to download updates/bug fixes/security patches.
Previous replies have suggested that the support for VB4 updates with a VB4 license will end once VB5 is out.
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Originally posted by Mark.B View PostYou will still get updates for as long as they provide them, for 4.x. Of course, eventually 4.x will be EOL'd. So then you won't.
Even an guess from Ray would suffice. 2 years?
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Originally posted by Wayne Luke View PostYou'll only need to pay if you want to upgrade to vBulletin 5.X. You'll be able to continue running vBulletin 4.X even after 5.0 is released. This is the predominant software licensing model in the world.
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Per the FAQ I put together, Ray actually said:
Originally posted by Ray MorganIndeed, the whole purpose of doing alpha and beta testing in more focused groups is not to spend 18 months in beta. (18 months from now I would hope we're knocking on the door of vB5.)
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Originally posted by Abomination View PostI've been asking for that estimated EOL period, tied to a calender, regardless of vb 5. I understand how it was done in the past.
Even an guess from Ray would suffice. 2 years?
Steve did put a thread in the licensed customer feedback forum with the details of how this will work, which in itself seems reasonable and realistic.
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Originally posted by hitmancode47 View PostI dont understand why people are talking about vB5.0 either, vB4.0 is yet to be released
Originally posted by Wayne Luke View PostYou'll only need to pay if you want to upgrade to vBulletin 5.X. You'll be able to continue running vBulletin 4.X even after 5.0 is released. This is the predominant software licensing model in the world.
Originally posted by ENF View PostNope. Because we know that if we want VB5, we'll have to pay for it.... it's not going to be FREE.- And, I'm confident we will not see VB5 for a long time to come. There will be plenty of 4.X versions to get through before there's VB5.
Originally posted by Sarthek View PostThis licensing model should be introduced into vB years ago, and I don't think people have isues with this model.
It is similar to WinXP, Win Vista, Win7.., only thing is sudden transsition which could be handled much more painless.
Originally posted by Shelby View PostThe beauty of not having a roadmap, or giving customers an expectation, is that they can launch 5.0 whenever they want and charge customers again without a resonable expectation for how long a version will last.
Originally posted by ENF View PostBecause some people were running around saying things like 12-18-24 months for VB5 when truthfully, they had no idea.
Just remember VB3 has been been around since 2004, that's five years of VB3. I'd expect VB4 to be around for 2+ years at the very least. [Hopefully longer, unless it's complete disaster, doubtful of course.]
I am operating based on actual quotes from Ray Morgan.Last edited by feldon23; Sat 17th Oct '09, 2:27pm.
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Originally posted by Mark.B View PostThe EOL date *is* tied to vB5 so they cannot give you that.
Steve did put a thread in the licensed customer feedback forum with the details of how this will work, which in itself seems reasonable and realistic.
We've been told that vB4 series will only last about 18 months. A "rapid development process" to get us onto new code as quickly as possible.
So vB4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, etc. may all happen just a few MONTHS apart from each other.
Compare this to vB3.5, 3.6, 3.7 which were all YEARS apart from one another.
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Originally posted by Wayne Luke View PostNot soon. We actually haven't even thought about vBulletin 5.0 except in the barest glimmer in the back of our minds. There is simply too much to do with the 4.X series still.
The only reference is that if you buy vBulletin 4.0 then you don't have to pay anything else until vBulletin 5.0 comes out. There will be no more annual renewal fees.
so i can continue with my own dream, isn't it?... loloh no, i'm not going with Xenforo... come on, i'm better than that... i stick with Wordpress... rofl
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