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  • calorie
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    There is a pre-sale event happening now, no demo currently available, and while the prices and licensing structure has changed, a lot of consideration went into it. As stated by our GM...
    Originally posted by Ray Morgan
    When considering every possible combination of products a customer might own, the pricing plan got very complicated very quickly. For the sake of simplicity, we calculated the maximum discount for a customer who owned Forum, Blog and Project Tools, and decided to give that discount to everyone, even if they don't own all of three products.
    While some people are okay with the new scheme, and others are unhappy about it, this has already been hashed and rehashed, so thread closed.

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  • ThailandTopper
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    Originally posted by kyrgyz View Post
    Just wanna add that I understand there are development costs incurred by Jelsoft as well as their employees and management are not working pro-bono. I am all supportive and ready to pay a premium for a good product. But the way new version transition was designed and presented upsets me.
    I completely agree! Would these same employees and and their management agree to a change in agreement the way they expect us to, much less buy a copy of a piece of software that only exists in 6 screenshots.

    But hey, for me, it's only $120...$20/screenshot seems like a fair price to pay for software the publisher can't even get running on their site, much less provide a demo site. Pathetic it is, in my opinion.

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  • The_Gismo_Man
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    Originally posted by kyrgyz View Post
    Just wanna add that I understand there are development costs incurred by Jelsoft as well as their employees and management are not working pro-bono. I am all supportive and ready to pay a premium for a good product. But the way new version transition was designed and presented upsets me.
    With you all the way on that one

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  • kyrgyz
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    Just wanna add that I understand there are development costs incurred by Jelsoft as well as their employees and management are not working pro-bono. I am all supportive and ready to pay a premium for a good product. But the way new version transition was designed and presented upsets me.

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  • kyrgyz
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    Originally posted by GHOwner View Post
    As for the topic, do you not realize what the discount is? It's compensation for such a thing as renewal... So the discount itself is because of your renewal.
    The only discount I'll be getting is for the Suite. I am buying Forum all over again (no "free" roll-over in my particular case).

    Those who are interested in Forum only might lose depending on the date of their last renewal.
    Last edited by kyrgyz; Fri 16th Oct '09, 3:34am.

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  • The_Gismo_Man
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    Originally posted by GHOwner View Post
    As for the topic, do you not realize what the discount is? It's compensation for such a thing as renewal... So the discount itself is because of your renewal
    You have missed the major point entirely, read my last reply, that's the main point of contention.

    I think just about everyone agrees to the pricing and why it's came about, but it's just so unfair to the majority.

    If it's so fair to you then great, but to others and me, it's not.
    If you like the fact you paying for something you can't have, well, tell you what, give me $100 US right now and i'll not give you anything either

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  • GHOwner
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    I'm disappointed in certain vBulletin things, but why do people keep assuming things and putting them as "IT'S GONNA HAPPEN"?

    As for the topic, do you not realize what the discount is? It's compensation for such a thing as renewal... So the discount itself is because of your renewal.

    $130 from a $250 price tag is a big discount. Over $100 off the sale, and almost $200 off the regular price.

    Originally posted by Zachery View Post
    If you wouldn't have shelled out the 40 USD, you'd be paying 190 instead of 130.

    You did recieve credit in a way.
    Exactly. The discount is specifically $250, but if you have an active, old license you get a discount of $130. So yeah, it's a discount cause of the renewal, already x.x

    Originally posted by The_Gismo_Man View Post
    I have no problem with the software or the pricing itself, but the fact that it is not related to fully paid up members via their own renew dates and that the software isn't even available to install is ludricrous and somewhat of a slap in the face.
    I don't understand why VB expect me to pay for something that is not available, only give me 2 weeks to decide if i actually want it when i can't even see what it can do for me
    This I agree with though. Even more so, the lack of indepth information on the product is what makes me frustrated and not wanting to pay.

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  • The_Gismo_Man
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    Originally posted by Zachery View Post
    If you wouldn't have shelled out the 40 USD, you'd be paying 190 instead of 130.

    You did recieve credit in a way.
    That's very true but it is cleverly disguised in that someone who is lucky enough to have subscribed on the 30th of October last year gets the better option of not already shelled out within a month like the OP and me.

    What VB fail to see so far is the unfairness in this scenario and to which i am most dissatisfied.

    I have no problem with the software or the pricing itself, but the fact that it is not related to fully paid up members via their own renew dates and that the software isn't even available to install is ludricrous and somewhat of a slap in the face.
    I don't understand why VB expect me to pay for something that is not available, only give me 2 weeks to decide if i actually want it when i can't even see what it can do for me

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  • kyrgyz
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    Originally posted by Blackbook View Post
    I did it on the 20/08/09 and i've not even downloaded the most recent vb 3.8. I brought it ONLY because I get vb4...but turns out thats not quite true. I get 1 years VB4, then I must pay full price.
    No, you pay $175. Full price is $195.

    I am in the same predicament like you are. I renewed my forum license in September.

    $40 + $175 =$215

    * $40 is the old renewal fee.

    So, for vB4 I'll end up paying about the same amount as buying a fresh license. It turns out there is really no free upgrade for me.

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  • Mike Anime
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    Originally posted by Zachery View Post
    If you wouldn't have shelled out the 40 USD, you'd be paying 190 instead of 130.

    You did recieve credit in a way.

    i guess 170.00 is better than 190.00 i guess. but 130 -40 is still better though and way easier to afford.



    just one detail i do need to know now. if i get the suite and i don't want it for some odd reason can i uninstall it and get a full or partial refund. i would expect any refund to be prorated based on when/if i decide to not want it.


    one point i will agree with however is having more than two weeks to come up with the money would be better like the full month.

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  • Zachery
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    If you wouldn't have shelled out the 40 USD, you'd be paying 190 instead of 130.

    You did recieve credit in a way.

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  • Abomination
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    The $40 you spent got you a cheaper price for the suite - $130.
    If you did not spend the $40 and renew your price for the suite would be $190.

    So assuming you are buying the suite at this time, you are $20 ahead.

    Read Rays latest announcement.

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  • Mike Anime
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    any vb rep want to chime in?

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  • Blackbook
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    I did it on the 20/08/09 and i've not even downloaded the most recent vb 3.8. I brought it ONLY because I get vb4...but turns out thats not quite true. I get 1 years VB4, then I must pay full price.

    ****ing horse****. This stinks

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  • Edrondol
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    HA! You wish! I paid for the software in late August and then for the blog on September 4. I have to pay the whole $130 upgrade or will have to shell out the whole $235 when it does come out.

    Not fair, but when they got ya by the short & curlies you have two choices - leave or pony up. I ain't leaving so if they decide to give me a break it's nothing more than a bonus. I could ***** & whine all day but in the end I'll have to pay up or walk away.

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