Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

This was a bad idea.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Grover
    replied
    Originally posted by version2 View Post
    http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showp...4&postcount=64

    Whoever is running your product development / customer relations department should be fired. 10 years ago when I bought vb to start a *forum*, I might have thought differently. Now that I am VP of major financial institution (and only think about my *forums* in spare time), I don't.

    That was stupid.

    Give access to the development forums as a preview or stop spamming people with empty marketing ploys.
    Wholeheartedly agree with this, like so many other customers do. What a sad phase in the history of vBulletin this is.

    Leave a comment:


  • Landy
    replied
    I got a cool car if anyone wanna buy it. Got a few pictures, but you gotta pre purchase it within the next two weeks and I'll give you an awesome discount, you have my word! Just send me some money and I'll ship it your way as soon as I've gotten around to put the parts on the chassis...

    Leave a comment:


  • roscoe36
    replied
    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    Not really.. The development server is used for a lot of things. Have been running the alpha on my site behind .htaccess and it is rock solid. Yeah there are a few bugs but nothing devastating.
    Then why can't we look at it?

    Buy it but you don't know when you can get it. It's unusable but it is rock solid. It is not ok on the development server, but it is ok on my server.

    Feels like we're going in circles here.

    Sorry to bust on you. You're a good dude. I don't envy your job.

    Leave a comment:


  • Jerz
    replied
    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    When he says they can often be unusable to the public, he means unusable. Not a little rough around the edges.
    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    Have been running the alpha on my site behind .htaccess and it is rock solid.
    Right then. Well my point is I can't imagine it would be that difficult to provide a demo of the product, development forums or otherwise. If there are some specific problems with the development server, I would probably not factor them into my expectations for vB4. So, if it runs fine otherwise, I'm not seeing the problem.

    Leave a comment:


  • Landy
    replied
    As a forum software, wouldn't it be obvious to turn the official vb.com forums into the new 4.0 version, before asking people to reach for their wallets and pay for something they've just seen on some screenshots? As a kid, I used to buy games based on how cool the screenshots looked, but in the end most of the games sucked, although the screenshots clearly showed something different. Stupid.

    Leave a comment:


  • The Notorious
    replied
    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    Not really.. The development server is used for a lot of things. Have been running the alpha on my site behind .htaccess and it is rock solid. Yeah there are a few bugs but nothing devastating.
    Are you talking about that ninja server?

    Leave a comment:


  • Wayne Luke
    replied
    Originally posted by roscoe36 View Post
    That's not very reassuring for customers. It means the software is a long way off, but for some reason, it is being presold aggressively.
    Not really.. The development server is used for a lot of things. Have been running the alpha on my site behind .htaccess and it is rock solid. Yeah there are a few bugs but nothing devastating.

    Originally posted by The Notorious View Post
    At least you guys should of got the shopping cart and all working with paypal working beforehand...
    It was working with Paypal up until last night when Paypal made a change to how IPN is handled. That issue has been fixed though and should be working properly again.

    Leave a comment:


  • The Notorious
    replied
    Originally posted by roscoe36 View Post
    That's not very reassuring for customers. It means the software is a long way off, but for some reason, it is being presold aggressively.
    Yea that's what I was thinking, if the beta is that far why start all this so early? At least you guys should of got the shopping cart and all working with paypal working beforehand...

    Leave a comment:


  • roscoe36
    replied
    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    When he says they can often be unusable to the public, he means unusable. Not a little rough around the edges. They can be seriously broken at times. I mean like 50 .htaccess prompts on a single page broken.
    That's not very reassuring for customers. It means the software is a long way off, but for some reason, it is being presold aggressively.

    Leave a comment:


  • Wayne Luke
    replied
    Originally posted by Jerz View Post
    The development forums may not be 'useful' to the 'public', but they can be a deciding factor for customers. I don't expect it to be bug-free or final, but I'm sure I could get a rough idea.
    When he says they can often be unusable to the public, he means unusable. Not a little rough around the edges. They can be seriously broken at times. I mean like 50 .htaccess prompts on a single page broken.

    Leave a comment:


  • theologyonline
    replied
    Yeah... I think this was handled very poorly. I think vBulletin should have waited to offer the sale until there was a working demo somewhere for existing and new customers to peruse.

    I also think vB should have offered the upgrade pricing up to the point your existing member's area anniversary expired. That way, you could simply choose to pay a little extra at that point or not. For me, I would have upgraded two of my three owned licenses when they came due.

    The way it stands... vB is forcing our hand on a software we haven't even seen yet. That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

    Leave a comment:


  • badblu01
    replied
    i have upgraded it would have been nice to see a demo before the sale

    Leave a comment:


  • boatdesign
    replied
    Originally posted by Ray Morgan View Post
    Due to ongoing development and bug fixing, the development forums are often in a state that is not useful to the public. However, you will soon be able to see a Beta version here on the vBulletin.com forums.
    I understand the alpha state could scare away the "public" who isn't familiar with vBulletin at all. I could be wrong, but I really think allowing your customers, many of whom have been running vBulletin since the year 2000 or before, to see the alpha forums would be an asset to you as they would be on your team and have a good idea of where you're heading instead of being left out in the cold with no idea how the software is progressing. Overall vBulletin is the best in my book, but I think the product development relationship with customers is a real weak point and the one point that I don't enjoy with vBulletin that I do enjoy with other (unrelated) software.

    Leave a comment:


  • version2
    replied
    Originally posted by Ray Morgan View Post
    Due to ongoing development and bug fixing, the development forums are often in a state that is not useful to the public. However, you will soon be able to see a Beta version here on the vBulletin.com forums.
    =]

    Ok, understood. That means the pre-sale email I got is also not useful to the public. Close this thread. Stop sending marketing emails until you have something to show for it.

    Leave a comment:


  • Harv
    replied
    Originally posted by Ray Morgan View Post
    Due to ongoing development and bug fixing, the development forums are often in a state that is not useful to the public. However, you will soon be able to see a Beta version here on the vBulletin.com forums.
    IBTL
    Does "soon" = before the "pre-sale" offer expires?

    Seriously, I'd already dug out my wallet.

    Leave a comment:

widgetinstance 262 (Related Topics) skipped due to lack of content & hide_module_if_empty option.
Working...
X