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  • feldon23
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    No forum software stores passwords as plaintext anymore. They're stored as a hash, which will appear as a random string of characters.

    Why? Because most users use the same password on ALL forums and social network sites they frequent. Allowing you to see the password of your users would likely give you access to their accounts on EVERY OTHER forum they post on, and probably a few bank accounts.

    So like any import, you will need to have your users reset their passwords when they first login to your vBulletin forum. There is functionality to send a mass e-mail to everyone asking them to set a new password to login.


    vBulletin can import from CSV using their ImpEx feature. You'll just need to tell it what each column in your CSV file means.

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  • mattm9973
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    Hey guys, I have some questions on this too. I currently run a ning network, but we're looking into merging with another site to increase activity. The other site uses vb 4.

    I have managed to acquire my ning member csv file, but I'm wondering how this could even work. After opening the csv file, I have found that it includes basic info such as email, name, location... any info required to join my ning network.

    But what seems to be missing is a password field. After importing the csv file to vb, I don't see how it could possibly work without a password.

    I do know that phpfox offers a ning import script, found here and with their script, all the members from the ning network will receive an email regarding a new password.

    I'm a little surprised vbulletin hasn't come up with something like this considering the recent announcements from ning.

    If anyone happens to know if this can be done, or has successfully done it, let me know.

    Or you could even make a script for this. If you're serious about it, feel free to msg me with a quote!

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  • Grover
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    Originally posted by feldon23 View Post
    Ning is a social networking site. It looks to me like a MySpace clone. So I'm not sure if vBulletin would give you the exact same functionality. I do think your client should be aware that with Ning, the data belongs to Ning, and there is no way to get a copy of it. So you are dependent upon their site never going down. Hosting your own data is a unique selling point of vBulletin.
    Thank you very much, Feldon. I always appreciate your insightful contributions. If there is anyone else who can also shine his/her light on the benefits of vBulletin compared to Ning I would love to hear it aswell!

    It is a client with a very big audiance really and a newly produced platform has the potential to skyrocket in the future. So, what other unique selling points has vBulletin over a Ning Community?

    I decided to open a new thread for this : Benefits of vBulletin compared to Ning , because this discussion is not on topic with the OP. Please share your opinions there.

    Thanks in advance,
    Last edited by Grover; Wed 30 Sep '09, 2:24am.

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  • kyrgyz
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    Originally posted by kersti View Post
    I'm afraid there's no way of exporting the threads and photos out, the only thing you have is your member list.

    Of course, this fact while annoying is also a strong argument for moving away from ning.

    I've just moved a community off ning, I gave them a deadline date and have shut down the access. Now as topics come up in the new site I have a small team of people who go back to ning, search for info there and somply copy it into a forum post. Crude, horribly manual, but at least it works.
    Have you thought about using SiteImport script from Webassist?

    Quote:

    http://www.webassist.com/dreamweaver...s/site-import/

    Import virtually any static or dynamic website into Dreamweaver

    Site Import is a unique product that gives Dreamweaver users the ability to easily import websites. Whether you are looking to import a website into Dreamweaver to discover how a specific feature was achieved or want to recreate a website's Dreamweaver template for your own use - Site Import will give you the power you require.


    Effortless Website Download

    Site Import can download and import virtually any static or dynamic website into Dreamweaver with a few clicks of your mouse.


    Recreate Templates

    Simply check a box within the Site Import Wizard to automatically recreate any Dreamweaver templates that have been used by the website you are importing.


    Import Control

    Site Import will allow you to import an entire website or a single web page. You specify the number of pages and even the number of sub-domains you want to import.


    Specify File Types

    Use Site Import to easily specify any file types that you would like to download such as PHP, ASP, PDF, or JPG.
    Last edited by kyrgyz; Tue 29 Sep '09, 9:51pm.

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  • feldon23
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    Originally posted by Grover View Post
    Would somebody care to explain to me what the benefits of vBulletin are over a Ning powered platform? I am just in the process of recommend vBulletin to a potential (very big) client and one of their employees just setup a Ning community for them, whereas I believe they should choose vBulletin. How to convince them to go for Jelsofts/IB's solution?
    Ning is a social networking site. It looks to me like a MySpace clone. So I'm not sure if vBulletin would give you the exact same functionality. I do think your client should be aware that with Ning, the data belongs to Ning, and there is no way to get a copy of it. So you are dependent upon their site never going down. Hosting your own data is a unique selling point of vBulletin.
    Last edited by feldon23; Tue 29 Sep '09, 6:24pm.

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  • Grover
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    Benefits of vBulletin compared to Ning?

    Would somebody care to explain to me what the benefits of vBulletin are over a Ning powered platform? I am just in the process of recommend vBulletin to a potential (very big) client and one of their employees just setup a Ning community for them, whereas I believe they should choose vBulletin. How to convince them to go for Jelsofts/IB's solution?

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  • feldon23
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    It's a hosted social networking site. It is extremely unlikely that they will give you your data. Most of these hosted solutions want to hang onto you as long as they can, happy or not.

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  • stryka
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    umm... i think your answer is above... it sounds like if your site grows (which every owner wants), you can not export your content and customize it the way you want... you will always be stuck with only what Ning offers...

    Only thing you will have is your member info... if you build a loyal following over the years, it would piss off your members if all of their content contribution is lost when you transfer sites...

    Anyhow... NING knows that and they bank on the fact that you will upgrade your account and stay there forever... can't hate the business model... they just hope that site owners join blindly and not think about growth...

    Originally posted by Lifeinitaly View Post
    Tired of waiting for VB 4 I was thinking to move into the much more modern looking ning platform when I read this post that made me wonder about my idea. ( I did already set yup my community there and I was thinking to do the opposite - importing vbulletin posts into ning ). May I ask what is bad about the Ning platform and where vbulletin scores better ?
    Last edited by stryka; Tue 9 Jun '09, 7:39am.

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  • Lifeinitaly
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    Tired of waiting for VB 4 I was thinking to move into the much more modern looking ning platform when I read this post that made me wonder about my idea. ( I did already set yup my community there and I was thinking to do the opposite - importing vbulletin posts into ning ). May I ask what is bad about the Ning platform and where vbulletin scores better ?

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  • kersti
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    I'm afraid there's no way of exporting the threads and photos out, the only thing you have is your member list.

    Of course, this fact while annoying is also a strong argument for moving away from ning.

    I've just moved a community off ning, I gave them a deadline date and have shut down the access. Now as topics come up in the new site I have a small team of people who go back to ning, search for info there and somply copy it into a forum post. Crude, horribly manual, but at least it works.

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  • Reeve of Shinra
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    vbulletin can import a csv file with the users information. So if you can find a way to export the user info as a csv file, you should be good.

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  • Freewilley
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    may be you need to hire someone to do that..

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  • Joshua Clinard
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    Yes, you can export member data, in a csv file. I am working on getting that file from the site admin. When I get it, can someone anaylize it and help me write a script to do the import?

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  • TomJames
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    The only thing I've been able to find is the ability to export member data, but not any of their content :S.

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  • Joshua Clinard
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    I'm trying to find out how to do an export of the data. I hear it's possible, but don't know how. Anyone know?

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