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  • Jim O
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    This is an interesting subject and one that we have been discussing. I actually created a thread about low cost VPS's in the hosting forum here yesterday.

    Given today's open source virtualization technology and powerful processors, along with low cost, small foot print control panels (should one be needed), a small VPS can be had for only a little more than a decent shared hosing plan. (of course by decent I'm not talking about the oversold $5-$6/month shared hosting that kicks you if you have 10 users online).

    If you don't run vbseo or other "costly" plugins you can get a lot of mileage out of 128 MB of RAM, especially if burst amounts are available. We're testing a server now with CentOS 5.2 (64 bit) using OpenVZ virtualization and HostInABox control panel and it idles at about 34 MB of RAM. Take away the control panel and it's 17MB. Running lighttp is very efficient. I'm of the opinion that, a container like that can be a reasonable first step, or perhaps a second step after the forum has 100 members and some activity.

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    This container is just running lighttd and has no control panel.

    Of course the lack of control panel is not for the faint of heart, and only saves so much. The way the templates are set up for OpenVZ I think there are more packages installed in the containers with the control panel as the OS is quite a bit larger. That makes me think it could be trimmed down a bit and save a little bit more overhead. It's hard to imagine a control panel is using a lot of resources just sitting there not doing much. Either way there is plenty of resource left to run a small vBulletin site. Go up to 256 MB of RAM and no question that you can run a moderate sized site so long as the vendor isn't overselling the box.

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  • StudioCodes
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    Originally posted by feldon23 View Post
    Shared hosting does not let you customize the server, install your own plugins, and cannot handle large forums.
    Well, that makes the price difference between a shared hosting package and a VPS.
    You pay to get more control.

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  • feldon23
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    Shared hosting does not let you customize the server, install your own plugins, and cannot handle large forums.

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  • BlueFlame
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    Shared hosting is cheaper.

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  • Hitomi
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    if your not experanced with whats needed then its not advised to use a vps without a control panel

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  • Zachery
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    Remember, that vBulletin isn't the only thing on your server, you've got email, http, php, mysql, etc etc. If you're using a Control Panel like cpanel/ensim, they can take up to 300~mb themselfs just to run before anything else.

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  • Dominiek
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    Thanks. We decided to move up to a guaranteed 256 MB.

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  • Andy Huang
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    Most people start off with shared hosting because it is cheaper, and often does what it needs until they've out grown shared hosting's server... but if you want to dive right into a VPS because of other reasons, there's nothing wrong with that too.

    I think you would be able to get your forum up and running with that resource. However, it'd be nice to disable or don't install a control panel software (IE: cPanel / DirectAdmin / etc.) because those tends to take away some of your resources running in the background.

    Another thing you want to note is that with that amount of ram, you will probably have trouble manipulating large attachments... I don't know an exact size, but generally, anything bigger than 10mb seem to add quite a bit of tax on server resources from experience. Further to that, it would be a good idea to constantly monitor your server as your forum grow, because with 128mb of ram, I think you may be facing some slow downs as your forum grow more popular.

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  • hitmancode47
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    128MB of ram should be more than enough to run vBulletin

    Like the fact your using a virtual private server, never done that before hehe

    -hitman 47
    Last edited by hitmancode47; Wed 16 Jul '08, 4:01pm. Reason: Typo

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  • Dominiek
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    Minimum RAM ?

    Hi,

    This may seem an odd question in these days of GB's of RAM, but the idea here is to run vBulletin on a Virtual Private Server, which only guarantees a minimum of 128MB. That doesn't mean it has 128MB all the time, but that there may be occasions where it is as low as that. Is that enough to have vBulletin continue to work or will it falter ?

    Thanks for any enlightenment here.
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