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    Hi
    We have a fairly large web page which is projected to grow further (currently 26,000 users) and the phpbb version is quite old (2.0.10) besides is only giving problems in order to update. Seem impossible to make it work right, and had to get the backups rolling in order to make a roll-back due to this problem. Question comes here, since we are considering to pay a professional to do the update for us, it might be better worth it to buy vbulletin and almost forget about updating and being hacked. We've been investigating about compatibilities and other issues of our concerned and had a pretty good look at demo version of vbulletin. We also know phpbb template won't work on vbulletin so one of our concerns is if writing a new template and theme for vbulleting is similar to phpbb or harder. When it mentioned “harder”, it meant that we know more features require more skills but what we really want to say is if an artist who has done a phpbb theme would be able without much more knowledge to write a new theme/template.

    Second of all I've also read that updating scripts from phpbb to vbulletin often lose some table son the way, some lost passwords others pms. However most of this topics where couple of years all and I believe updating scripts have improved since back then and these flaws fixed. We don't care much about pms but other data is essential. So my second question is how far are developed the updating scripts? (A link to a tutorial wouldn’t be bad)

    Because its a growing community we still only have currently 150 users connected simultaneously tops, but we would be interested to know what sort of server would require in order to provide our users with the best service as possible. Understand that one of our most visited topics contains 500,000 characters and is visited 6000 times a day. In terms of Ram, and CPU what would you suggest?

    We have considered the $160 package but are the additional $30 per year of upgrades compulsory? We know is not much but is something good to know before hand.

    Thank you and we hope the questions are clear enough.
    "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it!' -Team Skunkworkssigpic
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  • #2
    I'll answer what I can.

    vBulletin has a different style system from phpBB. A designer should be able to work efficiently with vBulletins style manager after playing around with it a bit though. Additionally it's well documented here. http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/styles_and_templates

    The import scripts are continually adjusted. I recommend you do a test import first, and if you have any problems we'll gladly help you fix them.

    The $30 per year is not compulsory
    Best Regards
    Colin Frei

    Please don't contact me per PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Colin F View Post
      The $30 per year is not compulsory
      But well worth it.
      ...steven
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      • #4
        Thank you for the help
        Since apparently shouldn't be any problem upgrading from phpbb to vBulletin, thee is one more thing I should know. On the forums we use a lot of html and bbcode for posting, I tried to preview some of the code on vbulletin forums to obtain the unswer but did quite got it. You see, vB 3.6.2 includes all the buttons to put the text in Bold change size etc... but I need to know that it can be set up so when you for example type "< table >" its going to work. I just need to know it can be done, simply copy paste from other software (Microsoft Word for example) into the forum and Work

        I'll give you cuple of examples

        This code when posted in the forum should look like this picture in vB http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/8159/ie1gs5.jpg
        HTML Code:
          <center>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/3/sep.gif[/img]<a name=q>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/3/q.gif[/img]</a>
          <a href=#a><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/a2.gif></a><a href=#b><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/b2.gif></a><a href=#c><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/c2.gif></a><a href=#d><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/d2.gif></a><a href=#e><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/e2.gif></a><a href=#f><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/f2.gif></a><a href=#g><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/g2.gif></a><a href=#h><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/h2.gif></a><a href=#i><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/i2.gif></a><a href=#j><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/j2.gif></a><a href=#k><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/k2.gif></a><a href=#l><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/l2.gif></a><a href=#m><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/m2.gif></a><a href=#n><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/n2.gif></a><a href=#o><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/o2.gif></a><a href=#p><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/p2.gif></a><a href=#q><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/q1.gif></a><a href=#r><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/r3.gif></a><a href=#s><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/s3.gif></a><a href=#t><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/t3.gif></a><a href=#u><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/u3.gif></a><a href=#v><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/v3.gif></a><a href=#w><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/w3.gif></a><a href=#x><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/x3.gif></a><a href=#y><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/y3.gif></a><a href=#z><img src=http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/1/z3.gif></a><table border=3 width=790 bordercolor=#00008D bgcolor=#030B59><tr><td width=100%><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 height=10><tr><td align=center width=300>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/2/1.gif[/img]</td><td width=80>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/2/3.gif[/img]</td><td width=90 align=center>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/2/2.gif[/img]</td><td width=100 align=center>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/2/4.gif[/img]</td><td width=130 align=center>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/2/5.gif[/img]</td><td width=100 align=center>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/2/6.gif[/img]</td></tr></table><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 height=27 bgcolor=#A3BFDF><tr><td width=300>[img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/2/cv.gif[/img][url=www.google.com][color=#008000][b] Anything[/b] [/color][/url]</td><td width=80>pelicula</td><td width=90 align=center>La película</td><td width=100 align=center>COMPLETA!!</td><td width=130 align=center>[url=www.gmail.com][u][color=#1D7AE3][i]Sunmermaster[/i][/color] ([img]http://www.marisasuarez.es/z/fotos_internet/estrellas/verde_c.gif[/img]191[b][/b])[/u][/url]</td><td width=100 align=center> hace 40 dias</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></center>


        This second one should look like this http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3023/ei2qa5.jpg
        HTML Code:
          <table border=6 width=100% bordercolor=gray bgcolor=black><tr><td width=100%>
          <p align=center>[color=#FEFEFE][size=24][b][img]http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/8176/punititulout6.gif[/img][/b][/size][/color]</p>
          <table border=0 width=100%><tr><td width=50%><table border=0 width=100%><tr><td width=49%></td><td width=1%><table border=0 width=100%><tr><td width=100%><table border=5 width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 bordercolor=black><tr><td width=100% bgcolor=black><img border=0 src=http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5741/punipunipoemi0do.jpg width=300></td></tr><tr><td width=100% bgcolor=black></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td><td width=49%></td></tr></table></td><td width=50%><table border=3 width=250 bordercolor=black bgcolor=#FEFEFE><tr><td width=100%><table border=3 width=250% bordercolor=#0D0D0D bgcolor=#3D4041><tr><td width=100%>[color=black][b]Categoria:[/b][/color] [color=white]OVAs[/color]
          [color=black][b]Genero:[/b][/color] [color=white]Aventura[/color]
          [color=black][b]Nº OVAs:[/b][/color] [color=white]2[/color]
          [color=black][b]Año:[/b][/color] [color=white]2002[/color]
           
          [color=black][b]0[/b][/color] [color=white]Japones[/color]
          [color=black][b]Subtítulos:[/b][/color] [color=white]Si[/color]
          [color=black][b]Fabsub:[/b][/color] [color=white]Mangalords[/color]
           
          [color=black][b]Tamaño por OVA:[/b][/color] [color=white]~204 Mb[/color]
          [color=black][b]Peso total OVAs:[/b][/color] [color=white]407Mb[/color]
          [color=black][b]Formato:[/b][/color] [color=white]Avi (DivX)[/color]
          [color=black][b]Fuente:[/b][/color] [color=white]DVD Rip[/color]
          [color=black][b]Calidad:[/b][/color] [color=white]Muy buena.[/color]
           
          [color=black][b]HOSTER:[/b][/color] [url=www.googel.com][color=white]Sumething [img]http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6444/crown8rx.gif[/img] {MGv}[/color][/url]
          [color=black][b]Uploaders:[/b][/color] [color=white]しらない[/color]</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>
          <table border=3 width=100% bgcolor=dimgray bordercolor=black><tr><td width=3% rowspan=3></td><td width=32%></td><td width=31%><table border=0 width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td width=100%></td></tr><tr><td width=100%><table border=3 width=100% bordercolor=#282828 bgcolor=black><tr><td width=100%><p align=center>[color=#848484][size=15][b][img]http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8210/harlockargumentoss8.gif[/img][/b][/size][/color]</p></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td width=100%></td></tr></table></td><td width=31%></td><td width=3% rowspan=3></td></tr><tr><td width=94% colspan=3><table border=3 width=100% height=64 bgcolor=#3D4041 bordercolor=#0D0D0D><tr><td width=100% height=58><table border=0 width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td width=2%></td><td width=96%><p align=justify>[color=white][i]Esta serie es una obra de Shinichi Watanabe, o Nabeshin como se hace llamar a si mismo, se trata de una parodia sin sentido, tal y como su serie predecesora EXCEL SAGA, con la que es imposible dejar de reir... Advierto que hay alguna que otra secuencia que podria llamarse hentai pero de las light [/i][/color]</p></td><td width=2%></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td width=94% colspan=3>[color=#3D4041][b]Informacion sacada de: [/b][/color]</td></tr></table>
           
           
          <p align=center>[color=#FEFEFE][size=18][b][img]http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9399/toshidenovaszo2.gif[/img][/b][/size][/color]</p>
          <table border=3 width=100% bgcolor=#3D4041 bordercolor=black><tr><td>[img]http://www.saga-ed.jp/top_img/news.gif[/img] [url=www.google.com][color=#FEFEFE]OVA - [/color][color=#FEFEFE]1[/color][color=#FEFEFE][b][/b][/color] [color=#C8C8C8][size=9][/size][/color] [/url][color=black][size=9] ~ subido por _anthen ~ [/size][/color]
           
          [img]http://www.saga-ed.jp/top_img/news.gif[/img] [url=www.google.com][color=#FEFEFE]OVA - [/color][color=#FEFEFE]2[/color][color=#FEFEFE][b][/b][/color] [color=#C8C8C8][size=9][/size][/color] [/url][color=black][size=9] ~ subido por _anthen ~ [/size][/color]</td></tr></table>
           
          </td></tr></table>
        Question is, can it be done? [I don't need to know how to do it just if it can be done ]

        PS: I deleted all the links to preven any sort of spam
        Last edited by NolFito; Tue 7th Nov '06, 10:54pm.
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        • #5
          All the [] tags should work, but tables and other HTML tags would require you to enable HTML for a forum, which we strongly recommend against, as it can cause serious security issues.
          Best Regards
          Colin Frei

          Please don't contact me per PM.

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          • #6
            Ok another question if a may. Thank you for the previous ones they've been very helpful.

            I just saw the new release of the 3.6.3 So I thought, IF I make a template when 3.6.4 comes out, would the template be affected? I understand some files are overwriten as they need to be fixed, but what is the extend of files afected generally when this sort of updates occur? Does it generally affect templates and themes?

            Thank you before hand
            Last edited by NolFito; Sat 11th Nov '06, 9:15am.
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            "I was a Hidden Treasure and loved to be known. Therefore I created the Creation that I might be known"

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            • #7
              Styles (what you are calling templates or themes or skins) are not stored in files. They're stored in the database. They are not overwritten during the upgrade. vBulletin uses approx 150 templates (HTML snippets) glued together in different combinations to generate the different pages and areas of the forum.

              From 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 you might see bugfixes, cosmetic improvements, or other changes in, say, a dozen templates. If you customize a bunch of templates at 3.6.1 and upgrade to 3.6.2, your templates will still be "frozen in time" at the 3.6.1 state until you migrate the changes. There is a Template Compare tool for this function.

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              • #8
                Thank you Feldon

                I hope this one is my last question. Is vBulletin compatible with postnuke or it should be upgraded to vbportal, or some other mainpage software. I'm running on the 0.7.5.0 version so it would be bad to know if vbulletin will work fine when I upgrade my phpbb forums to vbulletin leaving postnuke on...

                I accept other suggestions, or better ideas than leaving postnuke combined with vbulletin. Any comments are welcomed

                Thankyou for beins so helpful. Hopefuly I buy vbulletin enxt week
                "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it!' -Team Skunkworkssigpic
                "I was a Hidden Treasure and loved to be known. Therefore I created the Creation that I might be known"

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                • #9
                  I'm not aware of any PostNuke integration with vB. There are several add-ons that can do this, but they are third-party add-ons that we do not provide or support. You can check the Premium Modifications forum at www.vbulletin.org for information about these.
                  Steve Machol, former vBulletin Customer Support Manager (and NOT retired!)
                  Change CKEditor Colors to Match Style (for 4.1.4 and above)

                  Steve Machol Photography


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                  • #10
                    Make sure vbportal has all the modules and functionality that you need. I don't know anything about vBPortal.

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                    • #11
                      Well I've being doing my "homework" about the matter regarding portals formy web... seems using postnuke will be a headache. So I was reading about alternative solutions.

                      As I sead before vbPortal sounded good but I also notices vbAdvance. and then i saw this post

                      Originally posted by Zachery
                      Anyway they are both great systems that are avaible to the vBulletin member base. I'd suggest taking the time to check out both and see which fits your needs better.
                      Does that mean that ones vbulletin is purchased vbportal an vbadvance are free once you get vbulletin? I was becoming crazy trying to figure out the price or the purchase price, but if it was so simpel for the begining I'm glad that I'm switching to vbulletin

                      Thank you again you are trully being very helpful
                      Last edited by NolFito; Fri 17th Nov '06, 9:45am.
                      "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it!' -Team Skunkworkssigpic
                      "I was a Hidden Treasure and loved to be known. Therefore I created the Creation that I might be known"

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                      • #12
                        Both vBPortal and vBAdvanced are third-party applications that we have nothing to do with officially. You will need to ask specific questions about these on their respective foums.
                        Steve Machol, former vBulletin Customer Support Manager (and NOT retired!)
                        Change CKEditor Colors to Match Style (for 4.1.4 and above)

                        Steve Machol Photography


                        Mankind is the only creature smart enough to know its own history, and dumb enough to ignore it.


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                        • #13
                          vBAdvanced is free once you are a vB customer. They sync up with the vBulletin.com customer database.

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                          • #14
                            Another option is the Subdreamer CMS, while not free I believe it adds more features than any of the above systems.

                            www.subdreamer.com has more info and it fully integrates with vBulletin it just uses a different styling system.

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                            • #15
                              If you decide for vbportal you will get a discount by purchasing vbulletin using the affiliate link on the vbportal website (just a tip i wish i'd known!)

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