Vbulletin ought to get rid of the leased license

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  • KimmiKat
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 656

    There will be a pop quiz in the morning!

    Originally posted by Zachery
    Nope. Do the math.
    Kim

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    • Ohiosweetheart
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 1965
      • 3.8.x

      Originally posted by KimmiKat
      There will be a pop quiz in the morning!
      LOL
      Peggy
      ~ normal is overrated ~

      One Buzy Mama!

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      • Fusion
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2001
        • 4346
        • 3.8.x

        Originally posted by KimmiKat
        There will be a pop quiz in the morning!
        Heheheh, one of the topics will be, what will a can of fresh air cost in 2020.

        (Ever so slightly off-topic, we know)
        Toddler from Hell

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        • Gomjaba
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 970
          • 3.5.x

          I don't understand why the staff is still answering

          I'd say take it or leave it .. They build some new apartements here in my area, which cost between 300k and 2.2M Pounds Sterling (Gibraltar) ...

          I cannot go there either to say "I can only afford 120k - so make it cheaper" ... the gas and whatever example is still ok, even if some people don't like it .. stuff gets more expensive, period ..

          I am GLAD that the price has not been increased ..

          I don't think that current software developer, programmer, etc. have still the same prices as of 6 years ago like Jelsoft...

          As it was said several times in that thread : Leave it and move on ...
          I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol like some thinkle peep I am!

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          • coffeefix
            Member
            • May 2005
            • 41
            • 3.0.7

            I am GLAD that the price has not been increased ..

            I don't think that current software developer, programmer, etc. have still the same prices as of 6 years ago like Jelsoft...

            As it was said several times in that thread : Leave it and move on ...
            Do people still not get it?....... Not the price I had an issue with but the time allowed to use it. Geez.... I can't believe this thread has caused this much uproar.

            I don't understand why the staff is still answering
            Why? People have raised issues and concerns that staff can answer better than others.
            Last edited by coffeefix; Sat 10 Jun '06, 8:39am.

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            • whitetigergrowl
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2004
              • 644
              • 5.1.x

              Originally posted by coffeefix
              Do people still not get it?....... Not the price I had an issue with but the time allowed to use it. Geez.... I can't believe this thread has caused this much uproar.
              1 year is more than enough for the amount you pay for it. Want it longer and your essentially paying more for it.

              Fact: Look at how much it would cost to lease for 2 years. Now look at how much an owned license is. It makes more and better economical sense from a consumer standpoint to buy an owned license. Now I know Jelsoft wouldnt be complaining if they went 3 or more years leased. But really, why pay more for the leased software than the owned software? Now consider if you lease it for almost a year, then buy an owned license, how much you just spent on the software.

              While I'm aware not everyone can buy the software right away as owned...try getting donations from members over the course of the year to get an owned license. At least this way it compensates a bit.

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              • antialiasis
                Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 53
                • 3.6.x

                You know, I don't think anyone has pointed out yet that what the thread starter was saying the leased license should be is exactly what the owned licence is. Use the software for the rest of your life, free upgrades for one year, additional payment for further upgrades. (Well, it comes with free support the whole time, too, which makes it even better.) So what's the big deal? The leased license is just an additional option that people can pick if they happen to be in a situation where that is what they need. No reason to remove the option just because it's not what most people are looking for when they buy the software. If they bought the leased license but that was not what they wanted, it's not Jelsoft's fault.

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                • Gomjaba
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 970
                  • 3.5.x

                  Originally posted by coffeefix
                  Do people still not get it?....... Not the price I had an issue with but the time allowed to use it.
                  Ah ok .. well ...
                  I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol like some thinkle peep I am!

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                  • grabacontroller
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 74
                    • 3.8.x

                    I have a great idea. Why not offer the leased, owned, and the $250 license?

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                    • Jon.
                      Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 44
                      • 3.5.x

                      To be quite honest, i think it's a perfectly reasonable ammount of money. I wouldn't be here if i didn't think it was - i'd be using IPB. If you don't want to lease, buy the full licence. If you leased a car, you wouldn't be able to keep it after the lease expires, would you? What did you have to show after a year? Well, you'd have had the experience of running some excellent software, and if you're lucky a successful forum. The same goes for a car or a house. What do you have after you've given it back? You've had transport or a roof over your head for a year.

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                      • connkid23
                        New Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2
                        • 3.5.x

                        Happy Customer!

                        I purchased the owned license first and would do it again. VB is seriously the best software that we've used. Just wanted to say thanks and keep up the good work!

                        Also, why is everyone still going on and on and on about the leased license? Do yourself a favor and purchase the owned license. Even if you change your domain name, you can still update that in the member control panel... Correct?

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                        • Colin F
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2004
                          • 17689

                          Originally posted by connkid23
                          I purchased the owned license first and would do it again. VB is seriously the best software that we've used. Just wanted to say thanks and keep up the good work!

                          Also, why is everyone still going on and on and on about the leased license? Do yourself a favor and purchase the owned license. Even if you change your domain name, you can still update that in the member control panel... Correct?
                          Correct.
                          Best Regards
                          Colin Frei

                          Please don't contact me per PM.

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                          • Digital2
                            Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 57
                            • 3.6.x

                            The owned license is a no-brainer. I was here about 10 minutes before I made the decision to buy instead of lease. Obviously, the leased license is less economical for one major reason: Jelsoft has no way to control whether you continue to use their product after the lease has expired. They know that some people will steal their product and get away with it. Also, prosecuting such theft in some countries is nearly impossible. Since they have no way of knowing who is honest (and will renew their lease) and who isn't, they simply make the cost of leasing an unattractive option as opposed to owning. This entire thread is silly in my opinion. If you choose to lease, instead of own, you sorta deserve to reap the rewards.

                            It is (bar none) the greatest forum software package on the market and is easilly worth the cost of an owned license. It's not like someone is asking you to pay for phpBB or other such garbage. This is vBulletin!

                            'Nuf Said...

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                            • Weed
                              Member
                              • May 2003
                              • 38
                              • 3.5.0 Beta

                              Originally posted by tacticalnuke
                              A 19 inch TV from 5 years ago is pretty much the same as a 19 inch TV from today. The technology does not have to be drastically reworked. You're not redesigning CRTs or anything major, you're tweaking a few things.

                              With VB they're adding all sorts of new features and making the software MUCH more potent. There's a HUGE difference.
                              With all due respect, a TV is kind of a bad example because a TV doesn't get "upgraded", it either gets removed or completely replaced. It can't really evolve. =P

                              I don't think $160 is cheap, I think it's the perfect price. vB is updated on a regular basis, you get very good support, with quick response times, unlike its competitors. The development lifecycle isn't so excessively fast that you can't keep up (IPB), and it isn't so excessively slow that your website gets put at risk (phpBB). And even if you consider it fast, the company backs up your version for years to come. Look at how vB 2.3.x is STILL supported to this day for those that don't want to use 3.x.

                              ~Weed

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                              • coffeefix
                                Member
                                • May 2005
                                • 41
                                • 3.0.7

                                Well I see that you now have 60 days to upgrade, that's fantastic! On another note I Will be getting an owned license tomorrow btw.

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