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    * Please note, this is a suggestion for the vBulletin corporate website, not the actual software.

    There are a respectable number of people who complain about how the official vBulletin manual is lacking. Personally, I think it's OK, but will fully admit it has a lot more potential and even completely misses some technical items. It's also not the most user-friendly thing around in comparison to modern Documentation resources.

    With that said, I'm proposing that vBulletin(.com) integrate MediaWiki or similar onto this website, in the same regard to how Jira works. This would allow existing licensed customers to share and document their knowledge of the vBulletin software, provide a more "user-friendly" documentation resource and enable a better and more accurate searching for specific functions and/or terms. Everybody has used Wikipedia at least once, this would create a familiar experience.

    It could enable modification and style creators to create in-depth reviews on how the system works and what changes what and how x applies to y, etc - something that has been requested several times. It would be similar to vB.org's article section, but more efficient and practical.

    This would not be a replacement for the classic Online Documentation, no, instead it would compliment it as a community-driven resource while the Online Documentation remains the "official" documentation.

    I've been following Simple Machines for a while (since 2007 actually) and they have done this exact thing. They still have their official documentation, but also have community-driven documentation through the wiki. It works quite well and is fully integrated into their user database. Not to mention the potential to have incredibly rich documentation without having to pay a dime to the documenters.

    Of course this has the potential for inaccurate or misleading information, however labeling it as a community driven resource and limiting editing to Licensed members and support staff, that potential is greatly reduced.

    I know this won't happen, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. (Maybe I'll be wrong)
    - Maurice Workin' in the Jira mine, goin' down, down, down

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    I support the idea

    A lot of products on the web benefit from such community-driven approaches.

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    • #3
      We're currently moving a lot of the manual into the CMS - Wayne and I have certainly been doing some work on this (Impex documentation is getting updated and transferred at the moment). We do have a community tutorials section within the CMS where we've promoted posts written in the forum to there and will continue to do so where some benefit exists to doing that.
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      - "Quick Route" Interface...
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      • #4
        Have you considered VaultWiki?

        If you do a MediaWiki installation on vBulletin.com, it would be a great opportunity to work on a seamless, complete integration for MW. Please do it and include in 4.2.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Trevor Hannant View Post
          We do have a community tutorials section within the CMS where we've promoted posts written in the forum to there and will continue to do so where some benefit exists to doing that.
          Good stuff, wasn't aware of this. Though it does seem a bit inefficient, though I'm just picky. (better than nothing however!)

          Cheers Trevor!
          - Maurice Workin' in the Jira mine, goin' down, down, down

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maurd View Post
            Good stuff, wasn't aware of this. Though it does seem a bit inefficient, though I'm just picky. (better than nothing however!)

            Cheers Trevor!
            It makes more sense to use our own software and improve it to make it more efficient than to switch to another third-party product.
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            Wayne Luke
            The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
            vBulletin 5 API - Full / Mobile
            Vote for your favorite feature requests and the bugs you want to see fixed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
              another third-party product
              What about Jira?
              - Maurice Workin' in the Jira mine, goin' down, down, down

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Maurd View Post
                What about Jira?
                Decision already made, not something I had any input on.
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                Wayne Luke
                The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                vBulletin 5 API - Full / Mobile
                Vote for your favorite feature requests and the bugs you want to see fixed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
                  Decision already made, not something I had any input on.
                  I know, I was just poking fun.

                  Like I said in the original post, I had no real expectation of it happening, I just wanted to share my input.

                  Side note: I love Jira.
                  - Maurice Workin' in the Jira mine, goin' down, down, down

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Trevor Hannant View Post
                    We're currently moving a lot of the manual into the CMS - Wayne and I have certainly been doing some work on this (Impex documentation is getting updated and transferred at the moment). We do have a community tutorials section within the CMS where we've promoted posts written in the forum to there and will continue to do so where some benefit exists to doing that.
                    Thats a positive change! Having a large number of articles in the CMS will expose performance issues.

                    How about adding a wiki feature to the CMS, so that ranking members can add information to it? Or alternatively give ranking members the permissions to create articles in the CMS.
                    I buy 420 forums

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                    • #11
                      We use and like VaultWiki !!

                      A wiki would be a good thing for member contributions, the CMS is ok for vB official doco.

                      What we really need is good tech doco!!
                      environment: Centos 6.9, Apache v2.4.25, PHP 5.6.30/xCache, MariaDB 10.22 -- vB5 Connect Licensed

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                      Rick (site owner) and Kym (site tech) sharing this account

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Alfa1 View Post
                        Thats a positive change! Having a large number of articles in the CMS will expose performance issues.

                        How about adding a wiki feature to the CMS, so that ranking members can add information to it? Or alternatively give ranking members the permissions to create articles in the CMS.
                        Do what others have done and write it up in a post - Support can then promote it to an article where we feel it's of benefit to everyone else.
                        Vote for:

                        - *Admin Settable Paid Subscription Reminder Timeframe*
                        -
                        *PM - Add ability to reply to originator only*
                        - Add Admin ability to auto-subscribe users to specific channel(s)
                        - Highlight the correct navigation tab when you are on a custom page
                        - "Quick Route" Interface...
                        - Allow to use custom icons for individual forums

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                        • #13
                          Trevor, for the record, is there any particular forum where potential articles/tutorials should be written up or is it mostly just a free-for-all? I noticed that in the Community Tutorial section they come from random areas.

                          BTW, that thread which was locked, in case it wasn't noticed, that was a spambot. Look at it's "Homepage", it was just looking for backlinks, which it's still getting since the thread was locked instead of removed.
                          - Maurice Workin' in the Jira mine, goin' down, down, down

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Maurd View Post
                            Trevor, for the record, is there any particular forum where potential articles/tutorials should be written up or is it mostly just a free-for-all? I noticed that in the Community Tutorial section they come from random areas.
                            The Quick Tips Submission forum would be a good place.

                            BTW, that thread which was locked, in case it wasn't noticed, that was a spambot. Look at it's "Homepage", it was just looking for backlinks, which it's still getting since the thread was locked instead of removed.
                            Links in Forum Profiles and Signatures are undervalued as backlinks by the search engines. They have little to no relevant value these days in ranking algorithms.
                            Translations provided by Google.

                            Wayne Luke
                            The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                            vBulletin 5 API - Full / Mobile
                            Vote for your favorite feature requests and the bugs you want to see fixed.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
                              The Quick Tips Submission forum would be a good place.
                              Good stuff.

                              I've had an switching-your-board-to-HTTPS thing I've been thinking of submitting.
                              Links in Forum Profiles and Signatures are undervalued as backlinks by the search engines. They have little to no relevant value these days in ranking algorithms.
                              Still makes it inviting to spammers if their threads don't get removed.
                              - Maurice Workin' in the Jira mine, goin' down, down, down

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