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  • When will vB use their own CMS for the their own site?

    When will vB use their own CMS for the their own site? Like vB actually uses their own forum software. I suppose at that point, the CMS will really be ready for a prime-time site and the big issues will have been resolved. So, I'm wondering if there are any plans for this or will the CMS component of vB continue to be a demo-only area? If it's on the roadmap, is there a time-frame or a release target for it? Thx.


  • #2
    They started, on a small scale, today: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/content.php

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    • #3
      I hope that use it. I mean.. it is THEIR CMS.... why use something different? imo. :/
      If they don't use it they are basically saying they don't like their own product.

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      • #4
        It could kill their servers! And no static pages.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by janaf View Post
          They started, on a small scale, today: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/content.php
          I've no idea what you mean by this. I'm talking about the main site. About facing the same issues we--as customers--have on losing all of our links and much functionality by using the CMS as the home page, not just additional new content under the forum folder. I'd still like to know if and when this is on the roadmap.

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          • #6
            I do believe they've said they have no use of the CMS for their front sales pages and that their current setup suites their needs perfectly for them.

            Honestly, I'd rather them waste their time on coding and fixing bugs, than worrying about integration of their CMS there.

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            • #7
              Hey, don't shoot the messenger!

              I have no idea about their plans or timelines but I did see to day for the first time they have started using their own CMS. It's not just a demo area any more. There are a dozen articles, some blog entries, comments. That's all. Some demo material is still there even on the first page of the CMS.

              On their old root site, the ammount of material is very minimal, essentially a few more or less static pages. It can't take many hours to move those, change links and do a redirect to the new pages if they want to and if the servers are up to it.

              Yes, many users will have root directory problems and yes many will have server performance problems. There are plenty of threads on that.

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              • #8
                I do believe they've said they have no use of the CMS for their front sales pages and that their current setup suites their needs perfectly for them.
                If it's so, I think they will quickly realizse how bad it would look if they did not use their own code.

                Dog feeding can be powerful. Maybe the optimizing and performance issues would take a hike in the priority list

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nforums View Post
                  Honestly, I'd rather them waste their time on coding and fixing bugs, than worrying about integration of their CMS there.
                  That is not the point I think. The point is this:

                  Originally posted by Teresa View Post
                  I've no idea what you mean by this. I'm talking about the main site. About facing the same issues we--as customers--have on losing all of our links and much functionality by using the CMS as the home page, not just additional new content under the forum folder. I'd still like to know if and when this is on the roadmap.
                  When you look at Invision here: http://www.invisionpower.com/products/content/ , they state that:

                  We're running IP.Content!

                  We eat our own dog food! This website is powered by IP.Content entirely. And what's more, after the design phase was completed, building it in IP.Content took less than a day!
                  So they claim that their mainsite is completely powered by their own Content Management System. In the very first versions of vBulletin's CMS it wasn't even possible to publish articles that were not News-like articles, without authornames and without comments and all that kinds of 'News-articles'- look and feel. It is difficult for me to understand this, because that would be one of the very first things to think about when you plan/ functional design a CMS, wouldn't it? A lot of people will NOT need a News-articles site, that is obvious I think.

                  Gladly the developers listened:
                  http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...=1#post1845354

                  Now, in the current state it is apparently not possible to create a page like this:
                  http://www.invisionpower.com/products/content/

                  ... and this is Teresa's point.
                  Last edited by Grover; Tue 22nd Dec '09, 1:15am.
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                  • #10
                    Now, in the current state it is apparently not possible to create a page like this:
                    http://www.invisionpower.com/products/content/
                    if not possible, this CMS is almost useless to most except news publishing sites.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Grover View Post
                      ... and this is Teresa's point.
                      Exactly. Thank you.

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                      • #12
                        Anything is possible and I agree, it should be used... it should be the first thing you see when coming to vbulletin.com. IPB makes it work...

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                        • #13
                          There is too much integration in the main site. It's running more than just static pages. We're talking full integration with all of their back office systems as well as the Members Only Area.

                          There's more to it than just moving over a few pages.
                          Ryan Ashbrook - My Blog - My Twitter

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by janaf View Post
                            If it's so, I think they will quickly realizse how bad it would look if they did not use their own code.
                            100% of our site is our own code. Right now we're working on getting documentation into the CMS. You'll see more over time including updated information from the original manual content as well as new tutorials and information.
                            Translations provided by Google.

                            Wayne Luke
                            The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud customization and demonstration site.
                            vBulletin 5 Documentation - Updated every Friday. Report issues here.
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                            I am not currently available for vB Messenger Chats.

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                            • #15
                              If the CMS that they created can't meet their own needs, what are the chances it will meet ours? This is why I'm sticking with my current solution and not enabling the CMS when I upgrade.

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