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    I keep on reporting suspecting sites, that I am 99% sure are pirated vbs.

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    and no one seems to do anything.
    Last edited by Cary; Thu 12 Jan '06, 10:42pm.

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    Why on Earth would you or anyone think we are not interested in stopping piracy and protecting our Intellectual Property? That doesn't make any sense.

    Something is ALWAYS done. Keep in mind that Jelsoft is not some all-powerful entity that can smite down illegal sites with a wave of it's mighty hand. The process requires cooperation from the web hosting companies and others as well.

    Some sites may be hosted in places that don't respect copyright laws. Some may have purchased a license
    after getting their warning. Some just pick up and move to another host after getting shut down. And some may just take a while to get shut down.

    Thank you for your reports. Believe me, we DO follow-up within the limits of our power.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by cyberxp9
      I keep on reporting suspecting sites, that I am 99% sure are pirated vbs.
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      and no one seems to do anything.
      Also remember, lots of sites running vBulletin illegally will go out there way first to rent a host were the the laws are weak. Or they may even live in a country were the laws are weak and rent a local host. Like with many Russian sites out there.
      Last edited by Cary; Thu 12 Jan '06, 10:42pm.

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      • #4
        Just keep on reporting them. Like Steve said some go to legal status or other circumstances. I reported one that looked funny awhile back and it was gone after 2 weeks.

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        • #5
          You also need to understand, in some countries they do not care for such laws and lots of servers do not bother doing anything about it if they are getting paid for space. Good apples & Bad apples, can not do much.

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          • #6
            Our successrate to fight piracy has increased tenfold, if not more.

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            • #7
              I thought

              Piracy with Vbulletin was pretty difficult since I thought prior to installing it had to varify with the server the customer number and what not. Is that not the case?
              Last edited by The Overlord; Wed 18 Jan '06, 2:24pm.
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              • #8
                vB has viewable source, so it can easily be modified to remove any undesired code which is what pirates do. The only alternative rather than protecting the code using expensive and proprietary methods is to offload critical funtionality to a critical server which is not desirable.
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                • #9
                  The only problem I seen is hosts that help piracy. I've heard and and awhile back was even offered a pirated vbulletin by host though after reporting his pirated vb he seems to take it down for about a month place it back up and I send vb the link and he seems to be doing that ever since. Just takes it down enough time for vb to be satisfied and then its up again. Pretty annoying but I guess vb can only do so much like everyone has said in the thread.

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                  • #10
                    Those are basicly rumours. Because we follow up on our piracy. And if a site gets back in the system we take it up by one step and contact the data center besides the hosting provider. And if all fails we can still take the legal steps. Of course we dont' tell our full scale of methods to fight piracy, but be assured that there is more then the eye can see.

                    Piracy is a crime, it doesn't pay off and it is not as wonderful as when owning a legal license that comes with the benefits. One also sleeps a lot better, and it is a lot less hassle.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Floris
                      Those are basicly rumours. Because we follow up on our piracy. And if a site gets back in the system we take it up by one step and contact the data center besides the hosting provider. And if all fails we can still take the legal steps. Of course we dont' tell our full scale of methods to fight piracy, but be assured that there is more then the eye can see.

                      Piracy is a crime, it doesn't pay off and it is not as wonderful as when owning a legal license that comes with the benefits. One also sleeps a lot better, and it is a lot less hassle.
                      Yeah, I myself use to operate 3 boards under one license. I was ALWAYS scared i'd get myself into trouble if jelsoft found out. They eventually did and I just ended up buying the licenses, felt much better for it and the licenses arent exactly expensive at $90 per year. Your hosting for it probably ends up costing more in a year.

                      So, jelsoft DOES find out and they DO take action. Because 3 boards under 1 license technically means 2 are illegal ... for everyone who didn't understand .

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                      • #12
                        where cna we report piracy of vb?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pspcrazy
                          where cna we report piracy of vb?
                          www.vbulletin.com/piracy
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                          • #14
                            I just reported one myself and its offline, hopefully the user doesn't re upload it again for the 3rd time. It sucks to see these kind of people these days....I don't get why they don't bother using a free BB like I did till I saved enough money and ported over to vB.

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                            • #15
                              Hey to help stop piracy as well.....

                              You should offer a free version of vbulletin maybe use an older version so that people will use the free version and be satisfied and maybe in the near future to buy the latest version.this is just a suggestion not a to do immediatly just a suggestion

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