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  • Kensino
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    Originally posted by WhatChaMissin View Post
    Now that vB has gone Gold is there any ETA on when this is going to happen? I'm looking forward to seeing all the added features.
    Its will probably be months, IF they even do anything with it.

    I won't be installing it anymore because its now at vb.org because soon it will no longer supported by them either. I'll just lose my money on this purchase.

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  • WhatChaMissin
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    It is being Open Sourced, not abandoned. You'll be able to continue getting updates at vBulletin.org and there will probably be a lot of features added to it over time.
    Now that vB has gone Gold is there any ETA on when this is going to happen? I'm looking forward to seeing all the added features.

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  • Trevor Hannant
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    Please either stick to the original subject or move your complaints to a more appropriate forum.

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  • Kensino
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    Originally posted by Paul M View Post
    What utter nonsense, no one misleads you into downloading anything.

    Its your choice whether to download a FREE addon, knowing that it may not be supported (you can easily read the thread and check when the author was last online to see how supported it really is).
    Or, the vBulletin.org staff could actually do their job and not allow developers to mark their products as supported and they actually arent. Its been a problem for years with vBulletin.org. People looking at something that says "suppoted" download it, and then find out afterword their screwed because the developer doesn't care.

    Support = Supported
    Not Supported = No Support

    They need to learn what those words mean before just randomly marking everything they upload as supported in order to get more "Installed" clicks.

    I bet I can go through well over half of the items listed on vbulletin.org that are marked as supported and probably less then 1% are actually supported. Someone release a new product for free, marks it as supported, gets all exicted, supports it for 2 months then get's tired of it, and just ignores the members.

    Sure, no one forces you to download that stuff, its nice to have free stuff. But that's not the point. The point is the staff there has 0% control over what the developers do. You can complain and complain yet you see dozens, and dozens of products where people have been screaming for help on a product marked as suported for 6 months, 12 months, yet no reply. Yet someone its still supported.

    I guess that word "Supported" doesn't translate well to other languages/countries. I don't know.

    Utter nonsence, is marking something supported then ignoring people when they beg for a year for support. More like utter rudeness. It IS misleading. In a court (at least in the United States) that would not go over. If someone gave you something free or otherwise and said it was supported then didn't support it, they can be forced by the court to support it. If its not supported they need to mark it as not supported.

    I buy a computer because of support, I'm told its supported. Then I find out that the tech support never answers the phone when I call, YES that IS misleading.

    Same issue that vBulletin.org has. The staff can't control the developers. Or just doesn't care enough to do it. I've seen dozens of complaints about this issue on the feedback boards at vBulletin.org. The staff said at one time they were aware of the issue and going to find a solution to it. That was over a year ago. I wonder what they came up with?
    Last edited by Kensino; Tue 22 Dec '09, 8:23am.

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  • Removed-836727
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    Originally posted by maplr4ever View Post
    Who thinks we should make a Facebook group on this
    wtf
    for what?

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  • Removed-836727
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    Originally posted by Paul M View Post
    What utter nonsense, no one misleads you into downloading anything.

    Its your choice whether to download a FREE addon, knowing that it may not be supported (you can easily read the thread and check when the author was last online to see how supported it really is).
    Instead of checking when he was last online, i would check if he is replying in the thread^^

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  • Paul M
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    Originally posted by Kensino View Post
    even though they continue to mark the product as "Supported" to mislead people into downloading it.
    What utter nonsense, no one misleads you into downloading anything.

    Its your choice whether to download a FREE addon, knowing that it may not be supported (you can easily read the thread and check when the author was last online to see how supported it really is).

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  • Fusion
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    Originally posted by Lynne View Post
    I may be wrong, but I got the impression they were just going to take the version they are currently using here, which was just modified to work with vb4, and upload it to vb.org as an unsupported mod. It is converted enough to work with vb4, so I don't think they will do anything else with it.
    That would be an excellent start, and now that Gold is out I hope they get around to it "soon".

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  • maplr4ever
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    I have Project Tools too!
    I used it to manage the bugs in MapleMystery, which is my site/online game emulator thing.

    Dang shouldn't have bought it, now that people will just get it for free anyways.

    EDIT:
    Who thinks we should make a Facebook group on this

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  • Kensino
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    Originally posted by Zachariah B View Post
    Ideas / Thoughts:

    - well you could have many people working on the core files update them as add-ons, updates, fixes, and hacks made for the project.

    - It is not hard to track file by file on a project software that creates builds of the script on the fly for download.

    - "building and expanding" the project would be the job of all that use it, love it and live it. (anyone that downloads and installs it that wants to make a hack for it. ) If the hack is popular they can be integrated to the core files if creator of the hack OK's it, so on and so forth.

    - I am sure if we needed a forum or two the VBorg staff would swing in some for the cause and move the project on.

    ============================================

    I offer help on the project when it starts. I love the product. I get busy with Kiwanis projects and many other things. Shoot me an e-mail.
    vBulletin.org has enough trouble keeping its developers supporting stuff that they make now. It might work for a while, maybe 6 months but pretty soon the vBulletin.org developers will grow bored of it. Also, unless there is a set manager or group, nothing would ever get done. Too many people with too many ideas = nothing done.

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  • Zachariah B
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    Originally posted by ragtek View Post
    But who would be the "projectleader" and garantee the development and new features?
    Ideas / Thoughts:

    - well you could have many people working on the core files update them as add-ons, updates, fixes, and hacks made for the project.

    - It is not hard to track file by file on a project software that creates builds of the script on the fly for download.

    - "building and expanding" the project would be the job of all that use it, love it and live it. (anyone that downloads and installs it that wants to make a hack for it. ) If the hack is popular they can be integrated to the core files if creator of the hack OK's it, so on and so forth.

    - I am sure if we needed a forum or two the VBorg staff would swing in some for the cause and move the project on.

    ============================================

    I offer help on the project when it starts. I love the product. I get busy with Kiwanis projects and many other things. Shoot me an e-mail.

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  • RadioErewan
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    Originally posted by Mark.B View Post
    I think to be honest it is a dead project. I can't see how the devs will have time to convert it fully and release it. I think for the approximately 12 people (including me) who bought it, it's going to be a case of ditching it so we can move ahead with the vb4 upgrade.
    I am also PT owner. So, we are waiting for missing 10 now. Then we form vB dirty dozen...

    Regards

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  • Removed-836727
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    Originally posted by Lynne View Post
    I may be wrong, but I got the impression they were just going to take the version they are currently using here, which was just modified to work with vb4, and upload it to vb.org as an unsupported mod. It is converted enough to work with vb4, so I don't think they will do anything else with it.
    But who would be the "projectleader" and garantee the development and new features?

    If it would be a unsupported product, nobody could work on the further development

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  • farhad.khan
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    Despite the fact that we lost money ... I'm glad they discontinued Project Tools .... we've migrated to Atlassian's JIRA. It worth a look.

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  • Lynne
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    Originally posted by Mark.B View Post
    I think to be honest it is a dead project. I can't see how the devs will have time to convert it fully and release it. I think for the approximately 12 people (including me) who bought it, it's going to be a case of ditching it so we can move ahead with the vb4 upgrade.
    I may be wrong, but I got the impression they were just going to take the version they are currently using here, which was just modified to work with vb4, and upload it to vb.org as an unsupported mod. It is converted enough to work with vb4, so I don't think they will do anything else with it.

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