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  • All I want is a pretty SEO'd URL structure

    I already tried downloading vRewrite, everything installed properly, but I kept getting a double slash in my URL’s, plus it didn’t change anything else, not even a rewrite.
    I tried getting a solution over at vbulletin.org, but no response, I’m not sure if anyone still uses that plugin.

    I also tried Zoints SEO, but after I uploaded the program, it crashed my entire server.

    I looked at DaniWeb SEO, but they seem to be having problems with vB 3.6.8

    I can’t afford vbSEO.

    Do I have any other options? I’m not a coding expert, so I couldn’t just do it by hand. Is there any default option within vbulletin for customizing the links (Similar to how wordpress has their customizable permalink structure)?
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    vBSEO is the only one I am familiar with.

    Most modern search engines can index the default links just fine.

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    • #3
      Worry about your content more, and your SEO less.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the quick responses Jake and Zachary.

        The plugins I mentioned above all claimed to offer the URL type of feature but none of them seem to be working right for me. It wasn't just the search engine optimization I was concerned with though, as the URL's also make everything easier to keep track of for me, they look nicer this way too, and it doesn't look like just a bunch of numbers, basic descriptions, etc. when viewing the address toolbar.

        I suppose I was just wondering if there was some simple code, somewhere, so I could place it in a few of the templates to make the rewriting changes automatically.
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        • #5
          One more question I had, concerning vbSEO, is that does it rewrite the URL's very easily? Do you not have to delve too deep into the code?

          (OK two Q's) Also, how does it affect current "up-and-running" boards? Do you have to set up all kinds of redirects, does it have a large affect on visitors to your site? Do they care very much about what the software does for the forum? I'm trying to make my boards the smoothest place possible for my members)

          (That is if I can afford it within the next month or two ).
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          • #6
            I don't know much about the inner workings of vBSEO. It is probably best to ask on their forum.

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            • #7
              There's now a new kid on the block, nuSeo from www.nuHit.com

              It's a very good system that isn't encoded, very server friendly and feature packed to boot Also, the support staff are excellent!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Razasharp View Post
                There's now a new kid on the block, nuSeo from www.nuHit.com
                Ummm, thanks for the link drop. Do they offer URL rewritable code for free? If not, then how is it any different (or better than) vbSEO?
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                • #9
                  It's not free but last time I checked it was affordable, starting price at £50.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jamestl2 View Post
                    One more question I had, concerning vbSEO, is that does it rewrite the URL's very easily? Do you not have to delve too deep into the code?

                    (OK two Q's) Also, how does it affect current "up-and-running" boards? Do you have to set up all kinds of redirects, does it have a large affect on visitors to your site? Do they care very much about what the software does for the forum? I'm trying to make my boards the smoothest place possible for my members)
                    - Everything is controlled through the control panel; no code editing required.

                    - You can either use the default URL rewrite rules or specify your own.

                    - The default behavior for existing sites is to use a 301 redirect from the existing URL to the new vBSEO version of the URL. That's automatic unless you change the 'default' options.

                    - Does who care about the software for the forum?


                    Originally posted by Jake Bunce View Post
                    I don't know much about the inner workings of vBSEO. It is probably best to ask on their forum.
                    Ditto. The guys are usually pretty fast answering stuff in the pre-sales forum.
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                    • #11
                      Thanks, KW802

                      Originally posted by KW802 View Post
                      - Everything is controlled through the control panel; no code editing required.
                      Just to be sure, there is absolutely no code changing (not even for installation, editing certain portions of the forum, etc.) (I'm definitely not a coding expert)


                      Originally posted by KW802 View Post
                      - Does who care about the software for the forum?

                      I just meant the visitors, would they be repelled by this in anyway?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jamestl2 View Post
                        Just to be sure, there is absolutely no code changing (not even for installation, editing certain portions of the forum, etc.) (I'm definitely not a coding expert)
                        For the installation of vBSEO I'm using at Cool Sci-Fi the only changes I did to 'code' where (a) I didn't like where the default position for the vBSEO copyright notice was so I manually edited my 'footer' template to have it appear in the spot that I preferred and (b) I didn't like the default vBSEO copyright notice so I changed the option in their configuration file (they offer a choice of several alternatives that you can choose from) but other than that everything else was done through the vBSEO control panel. Both of those edits were strictly optional as I could've left both the notice location and wording alone.

                        As part of the install you will also need to install the vBSEO edits to your .htaccess file; if you don't have one already then just use the one they supply to your but if you do already have one on your site then you'll need to edit the file to keep your existing choices along with the vBSEO edits.

                        Originally posted by jamestl2 View Post
                        I just meant the visitors, would they be repelled by this in anyway?
                        Generally they don't care but... here's the big 'but' part... if you use vBSEO or any SEO solution that turns your URL's into something like http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1 and then stop using the SEO solution you may end up with broken incoming links because the URL http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1 no longer exists and needs to be referenced by the default http://www.yoursite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1 method.

                        Best advice I can give is to just make sure you're committed to using a SEO URL re-write solution because it can be a major headache in the future if your site becomes really popular and you decide to no longer use the re-written URLs.
                        [URL="http://coolscifi.com"]Cool Sci-Fi[/URL="http://coolscifi.com"] | [URL="http://awalkerbit.me"]Walking Dead[/URL="awalkerbit.me"]

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                        • #13
                          Thanks you, those were the main coding concerns I had with the software

                          Originally posted by KW802 View Post
                          Generally they don't care but... here's the big 'but' part... if you use vBSEO or any SEO solution that turns your URL's into something like http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1 and then stop using the SEO solution you may end up with broken incoming links because the URL http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1 no longer exists and needs to be referenced by the default http://www.yoursite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1 method.

                          Best advice I can give is to just make sure you're committed to using a SEO URL re-write solution because it can be a major headache in the future if your site becomes really popular and you decide to no longer use the re-written URLs.
                          If I did make the changes to how I want the URLs to look (something like):
                          http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1

                          I don’t think I’d ever go back to the default URLs vBulletin already has,
                          But what if I wanted to add a change to like:
                          http://www.yoursite.com/forums/datecreated/example-thread-dr-who-1

                          Or something? Would that be bad for already established forums?
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                          • #14
                            There are no code changes nesc with nuSeo. It also offers APC, Memcache support - ideal if you run a busy/large board.

                            If you have any questions about nuSeo check out their forums - the support is excellent
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jamestl2 View Post
                              If I did make the changes to how I want the URLs to look (something like):
                              http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1

                              I don’t think I’d ever go back to the default URLs vBulletin already has,
                              But what if I wanted to add a change to like:
                              http://www.yoursite.com/forums/datecreated/example-thread-dr-who-1

                              Or something? Would that be bad for already established forums?
                              I can't answer for how NuSEO or other packages handle it but at least with vBSEO it wouldn't be a problem as long as you have the thread ID (or forum ID or whatever ID it is that you're changing the URL on) from Day 1 as part of the new URL.

                              In the case of http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1 represents the thread ID, the same as as if you went directly http://www.yoursite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1. That's extremely important because if I decide to change my URL structure in the future to something like http://www.yoursite.com/example-thread-dr-who-1 (the 'forums' part is gone) then anybody going to http://www.yoursite.com/forums/example-thread-dr-who-1 would be 301 redirected to the new URL based upon the post ID. If I did not have the thread ID in there then the link would result in a 404 page not found error.

                              Now, mind you, that's in theory based upon the way it's supposed to work because I personally have not changed my URL structures after going live with vBSEO so I can not vouch just how good that method is.
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