Move thread not available after upgrade

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Last night, in less than 24 hours, vB upgraded us to 3.6 from 3.5.4.

Why can't I see move threads as super admin?

Is this a revert issue. Which revert, and how do you do the revert. Please point me to a good article, thread.

tia

[Steve Machol]

Yes, you need to revert your templates. There should be a message at the top of the Admin CP stating this.

[Marsupilami]

Now this is interesting.

I set up a local test forum, and upgraded from 3.5.4 to 3.6.0 and tried it out some.
Yes, lots of templates to "revert", or rather rewrite. (Grr).
But then i moved the test forum to a new server that we are planning on using, reconfigured url etc. stuff, and then me and the other admin/supermods did a little crunch test on that new server. And ... "Swoooup" - The move threads menu choice disappeared.

Yikes!

Had a look at the original test site, and it's still there. Had a look into the logs to see if any of my friends did an "april fools" on me, but no.

The "move thread" menu choice had gone to oblivion. Or possibly "template hell".

Scary.

Did some diagnostivs on the db. Could not find any reason for it to disappear in the move.

[Steve Machol]

Try this. Create a new style and choose no parent style. This will force it to use the default templates. Then change to this style and view your forums with it. Do you have the same problem?

[Marsupilami]

Ah, yes. Thats how it is set up. One "vBulletin default style" and then our local style with no parent style, (goes back to the "hidden" default style).
So i guess we accidently tested that already.

[Steve Machol]

Sorry, I don't understand your last message. Please explain.

[Marsupilami]

Clarification:
Our forum style is set up with two branches. One is the "clean" vBulletin 3 style, and the other is the style that we use.
The "clean" style is user selectable if there is something wrong with the default style.

They are ordered like this:

vBulletin 3
--- vBulletin 3 with only addition of entry points to picture gallery and such
Red2Black
--- Our customized default style based on R2B with all bells and whistles configured
Teststyle that is composition of R2B and our customized default style

The thing is, that when enabling DEBUG, one gets to se it like this instead:

MASTER STYLE
--- vBulletin 3
--- --- vBulletin 3 with only addition of entry points to picture gallery and such
--- Red2Black
--- --- Our customized default style based on R2B with all bells and whistles configured
--- Teststyle that is composition of R2B and our customized default style

Thus i consider the MASTER STYLE being a "hidden" style.
And so we have implicit done the test you requested.

N.B. The Teststyle is only admin selectable.

[Steve Machol]

Still unclear. Did you follow my suggestion in post #4 or not? You shhould not have these problems with the original vB code and templates.

[Marsupilami]

Yes. You're correct. Looking into the MASTER STYLE i can see the menu item for moving thread.

So why did it zap the default style then?

Inheritance is not blocked in the "style tree" for that item. And even so - Why did it go away?

Edit: Typo

[Steve Machol]

The 'default' style is just a name. It can be modifed and changed like any other style.

[Marsupilami]

Come to think about it, i've noticed a bug in the handling of phrasing that has to do with exporting and reimporting XML for a translation when the translated language (swedish) is selected for the admin doing the export/import.

Seems some of the XML get translated into nonsense this way.
In such way that you get an error when reimporting the saved translation XML.

I haven't reported it yet, (sorry), but the actual XML for the translation should not in anyway be translated itself.

Can the same problem with nonenglish language setting for admin affect the style handling too?

[Steve Machol]

Sorry, I don't know how that applies. Did you upload an xml style file?

[Marsupilami]

The 'default' style is just a name. It can be modifed and changed like any other style.

Yes?

I guess you are not referring to the name of the MASTER STYLE? (Hope not).

We have not renamed the "default style" template set. We have instead properly selected another style as forum default.

[Steve Machol]

Yes if you are showing the Master Style then you are in debug mode which can cause lots of problems if you make the wrong change. You can change the Master style that way. I advise you to get out of debug mode before you do some damage.

[Marsupilami]

Sorry, I don't know how that applies. Did you upload an xml style file?

The styles are handled with XML, right?

And i just had a thought that if a phrasing XML can be corrupted by downloading it with one language setting and thenafter uploading it with another language setting - Then maybe the phrasing could affect other XML handling.

Is that a correct assumption, (with reservation for proving the corruption of the phrasing XML)?


The thing is i don't think i did ran the style update on the first test server. not sure.
But i ran it on the second test server, where the menu item disappeared.
And i had english selected on the first server. And set it to swedish immediately on the second server after the move.