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  • Steps before upgrade from 4.2.5 to 5 series

    Hi all

    I am currenty removing all plug-ins from my 4.2.5 forum and tidying up all out of date files etc with the Suspect Files feature.

    I only have Tapatalk and Everywhere Side Bar left as plug-ins.

    Everywhere Side Bar seems to be not required for VB5 as there seems to be other ways to display the content I need to show on the side of the forum.

    Should I remove Tapatalk completely before attempting the upgrade to VB5?
    Should I install PHP 7 and see if it works on 4.2.5 before upgrading to VB5?
    Currently I am on 5.6.30.

    Many thanks.
    Regards
    Trevor

  • #2
    Your vBulletin 4 files aren't relevant and won't be carried over to vBulletin 5. vBulletin 4 Addon Products will be removed during the upgrade. vBulletin 4 styles will remain but will be inactive and do not work in vBulletin 5. vBulletin 5 doesn't store plugins in the database. Your current version of PHP is satisfactory. Though, PHP 7 will provide a performance boost.

    We recommend first upgrading a copy of your database. To do this, you would follow these steps:

    1) Backup your current database.
    2) Restore the backup in a new database.
    3) Create a new directory.
    4) Upload your vBulletin 5 files to this directory.
    5) Follow the upgrade steps in the vb5readme.html file.

    The upgrade will import your vBulletin 4 database information into the new vBulletin 5 tables and delete the majority of tables used by vBulletin 5. There is no procedure to revert.

    Once, you have tested vBulletin 5 to your satisfaction, turn off your vB4 forums and create a new backup. Point the files in your vBulletin 5 directory to your vBulletin 4 database and run upgrade.php again.
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    Wayne Luke
    The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
    vBulletin 5 API

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    • #3
      Thanks Wayne, I understand the process now.
      Regards
      Trevor

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
        Your vBulletin 4 files aren't relevant and won't be carried over to vBulletin 5. vBulletin 4 Addon Products will be removed during the upgrade. vBulletin 4 styles will remain but will be inactive and do not work in vBulletin 5. vBulletin 5 doesn't store plugins in the database. Your current version of PHP is satisfactory. Though, PHP 7 will provide a performance boost.

        We recommend first upgrading a copy of your database. To do this, you would follow these steps:

        1) Backup your current database.
        2) Restore the backup in a new database.
        3) Create a new directory.
        4) Upload your vBulletin 5 files to this directory.
        5) Follow the upgrade steps in the vb5readme.html file.

        The upgrade will import your vBulletin 4 database information into the new vBulletin 5 tables and delete the majority of tables used by vBulletin 5. There is no procedure to revert.

        Once, you have tested vBulletin 5 to your satisfaction, turn off your vB4 forums and create a new backup. Point the files in your vBulletin 5 directory to your vBulletin 4 database and run upgrade.php again.
        Questions:

        1. regarding that last step. Once we point the test forum to the live database and run the upgrade script again, won't we lose all of the customizations we made to the test server and have to start over? Like pages we created, menu modifications, admin settings, etc?

        2. Reading the upgrade instructions in the manual there is a note that says, "as you already have a vbulletin installation running on your server, you should delete the install.php in the /core/install directory" --- Should I do this or leave it? I do already have a vbulletin installation (the test one) but I am also rerunning the upgrade on the v4 database I just copied over.

        Thanks.



        Last edited by TheologyWeb; Tue 18 Aug '20, 4:50am.
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        • #5
          I updated my post above. if anyone can answer my questions I would very much appreciate it.
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          • #6
            1. You can export your style changes to import into your live site in the AdminCP. Site Builder Pages, Permissions and setting changes would have to be re-applied.

            2. The install directory should be deleted when it is not in use. You won't be able to access the AdminCP when it exists and it presents danger to your site if left on the server.
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            Wayne Luke
            The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
            vBulletin 5 API

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
              1. You can export your style changes to import into your live site in the AdminCP. Site Builder Pages, Permissions and setting changes would have to be re-applied.

              2. The install directory should be deleted when it is not in use. You won't be able to access the AdminCP when it exists and it presents danger to your site if left on the server.
              Thanks. The upgrade went smoothly.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
                Point the files in your vBulletin 5 directory to your vBulletin 4 database and run upgrade.php again.

                Newbie with what's probably a stupid question...if today my 4.2.5 forum is pointed to "domain.com/board" and the new VB5 files go into "domain.com/forums", is it as simple as just making a couple of redirect changes with my host to ensure visitors don't keep hitting the old URL after the 5.6.4 upgrade is complete?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by outermonvolia View Post


                  Newbie with what's probably a stupid question...if today my 4.2.5 forum is pointed to "domain.com/board" and the new VB5 files go into "domain.com/forums", is it as simple as just making a couple of redirect changes with my host to ensure visitors don't keep hitting the old URL after the 5.6.4 upgrade is complete?
                  Don't do it that way.

                  vBulletin 5 has redirects in place from old vB4 URLs but this relies on the folder structure not changing.

                  However, vB5 requires an empty directory - that is to say, absolutely no old vB4 files in place (except user generated content like avatars and attachments, if stored in the file system)

                  So - rename your existing directory to something else, and make a new, empty directory at /board.
                  Copy over any user generated files and folders (such as avatars and attachments, if stored in the file system)
                  Also any custom smilies.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mark.B View Post

                    Don't do it that way.

                    vBulletin 5 has redirects in place from old vB4 URLs but this relies on the folder structure not changing.

                    However, vB5 requires an empty directory - that is to say, absolutely no old vB4 files in place (except user generated content like avatars and attachments, if stored in the file system)

                    So - rename your existing directory to something else, and make a new, empty directory at /board.
                    Copy over any user generated files and folders (such as avatars and attachments, if stored in the file system)
                    Also any custom smilies.
                    Makes perfect sense!! So simple, too. Thank you!

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                    • #11
                      The use of "forums" in the documentation is an example. You can install vBulletin 5 in any directory you wish. We cannot list all the different variations that customers use for their installation directory, there are thousands of combinations in use.
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                      Wayne Luke
                      The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                      vBulletin 5 API

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