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[Paul M]

Bootstrap is an amazing piece of open source code which is great, and I take my hats off to the guys who made it but it has no place in something such as vBulletin.

Where exactly in vB5 in this code you are referring to ?

[Off_Topic]

I took one quick look over it and noticed that there's quite heavy use of Bootstrap, and shuddered.

Why would a professional product such as vBulletin even consider implementing Bootstrap code? I don't know how deep the dependence goes on it, but as a developer I won't be touching the new vBulletin. Bootstrap is an amazing piece of open source code which is great, and I take my hats off to the guys who made it but it has no place in something such as vBulletin. There's numerous problems with using it, in particular there commonly being no backwards compatibility when the Bootstrap guys release updates. Are the VB Devs going to screw around with things just so nothing gets broken every time there's a Bootstrap update? Or just rely on an old version of Bootstrap forever? Why not use something more commonly known/reliable such as jQuery UI for many common objects? What about designers who want to implement new Bootstrap features but can't without entirely screwing a default design? There's a million possible scenarios.

Also... There's a tonne of pretty simple validation errors Looks like my main vBulletin forum will be remaining on 3.x until I work out what to do.

[Zachery]

You guys have QA?

Our QA staff are INSANELY hard working group of people. They're amazing at their jobs and what they do. I'd ask you not insult them like that, its really not fair to the amount of hard work and dedication they put into their jobs.

[gamestar]

Site builder not working, is more than likely either A: a configuration issue, B: an environment issue. That wouldn't make it past QA.

You guys have QA?

[sadiq6210]

You have posted in this thread


Is there any request in JIRA to add/return this feature?

[Wayne Luke]

site builder : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5773
stylevar : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5775 & http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5778
home page, activity stream : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5779

so tired, download the beta, upload it to server, install, run & still buggy....
how can the bug shows up in the higher version? the site builder (edit page) & the home page (activity stream) work fine in the previous version

Settings -> Options -> Server Settings and Optimization Options -> Use Javascript Bundling -> No.

You're server seems to have a drastically reduced query string limit. About 512 characters instead of the default 8192.

[soniceffect]

site builder : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5773
stylevar : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5775 & http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5778
home page, activity stream : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5779

so tired, download the beta, upload it to server, install, run & still buggy....
how can the bug shows up in the higher version? the site builder (edit page) & the home page (activity stream) work fine in the previous version

Answer to your question is, very easily. Unfortunately a fix for an item can break an item that was previously working. This is the case no matter what is being developed when it gets to this kind of scale. Happens to me on an almost weekly basis.

[Zachery]

site builder : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5773
stylevar : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5775 & http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5778
home page, activity stream : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5779

so tired, download the beta, upload it to server, install, run & still buggy....
how can the bug shows up in the higher version? the site builder (edit page) & the home page (activity stream) work fine in the previous version

Site builder not working, is more than likely either A: a configuration issue, B: an environment issue. That wouldn't make it past QA.

[sukagwe]

Have you reported these issues in JIRA?

site builder : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5773
stylevar : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5775 & http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5778
home page, activity stream : http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-5779

so tired, download the beta, upload it to server, install, run & still buggy....
how can the bug shows up in the higher version? the site builder (edit page) & the home page (activity stream) work fine in the previous version

[hornstar6969]

It is fixed in Beta 17 which isn't public yet.

But looking at the tracker item, it looks like a beta tester testing the fix has reported it is currently buggy.

[Mark.B]

site builder error
lack option for stylevar (no option for footer & many more)
error in multiple selection for stylevar (unable to revert more than 1 stylevar option)

Please could you log these in the Tracker, with as much detail as you can?

This is the only way to get them fixed / improved.

[Wayne Luke]

When will we see the beta use the database from these forums so we can really compare vB5 to vB4 in layout, speed and compatibility?

vb5Demo will not use this database. We will upgrade these forums eventually though.

[rudedog1968]

When will we see the beta use the database from these forums so we can really compare vB5 to vB4 in layout, speed and compatibility?

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When will we see the beta use the database from these forums so we can really compare vB5 to vB4 in layout, speed and compatibility?

[Ace]

my opinions for beta 16:

very disappointed, still far away from expected.
site builder error
lack option for stylevar (no option for footer & many more)
error in multiple selection for stylevar (unable to revert more than 1 stylevar option)
etc

Have you reported these issues in JIRA?

[sukagwe]

my opinions for beta 16:

very disappointed, still far away from expected.
site builder error
lack option for stylevar (no option for footer & many more)
error in multiple selection for stylevar (unable to revert more than 1 stylevar option)
etc


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