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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by s.molinari View Post
    So post comments was created and a concept to make it a half ways decent feature was made later, by the alpha testers(?), but hasn't yet been implemented? Have I reformulated your post correctly? You don't have to answer unless you feel the truth is supportive for IB. Just tell me I am wrong, if I am.
    There are also several features and implementations of features that we've decided to let through in their current state specifically to get feedback from customers over time on how they may be refined or even removed.

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  • George L
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    Originally posted by sadiq6210 View Post
    To be fair, nearly 60% of the page size on vB5 demo forums is from youtube/google map page elements and files.

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  • George L
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    Just want to chime in a bit although I'm not a vB developer - just a support staff member.

    As Allen touched on, QA staff, vB Devs and support staff don't have any say when it comes to the managerial decision as to the timing of vB5 Beta launch, licensing and pricing policies. So setting aside decisions and factors outside of our control for the moment, here's some facts from my perspective:

    1. vB Devs are currently analysing and identying the performance issues on the public vB5 Beta 10 demo, and ironing out those issues as we speak.

    2. Subsequent vB5 Beta builds will definitely have lesser number queries per page and better performance than what you are currently witnessing on vB5 Beta 10 demo forums. How much better, I wouldn't know as I'm not a developer. Thus, the current vB5 Beta 10 demo shown isn't anywhere near representative of what to expect for final vB5 product. Same probably can be said for vB5 Search.

    3. Yes the current vB5 Beta 10 demo forum is awfully slow. Even a 2 legged dog would be faster. But as already mentioned, subsequent vB5 Beta builds will definitely improve in terms of performance as vB Devs tireslessly squash each bug they come across.

    4. Yes, one poor performing query can slow things down, I think most of us have experienced this ourselves with other mysql utilising apps as well besides vB. So can many efficiently performing queries out perform fewer poorly performing queries ? Of course it can. As it relates to vB5 current beta 10 build, as Wayne already linked to, vB devs are identifying all the problem areas, one example is http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-4345. So future vB5 builds will improve in terms of a lesser quantity of queries per page as well as their efficiency. Again vB5 Beta 10 demo isn't anywhere near representative of what to expect for final vB5 product.

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  • soniceffect
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    Performance issues are however known about and being addressed, so wouldnt read too much into that until they have been

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  • sadiq6210
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    Performance report for VB4
    http://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.vbulletin.com/RRzWzL7n

    And for VB5
    http://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.vbulletin.com/UmBORZDA

    Page size is increased from 223KB to 1.82MB (More than 8 times)
    http://gtmetrix.com/compare/UmBORZDA/QnToCjWw

    Graphs (VB4 vs. VB5)
    http://gtmetrix.com/compare/UmBORZDA...#report-graphs
    Last edited by sadiq6210; Mon 17 Sep '12, 4:10am.

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  • soniceffect
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    Guess it looks like some would find them useless (therefore switch them off as you can do) and those who would use them would do so only for specific usergroups (of which you cannot yet do). So seems to me there is some use for them, just not quite there yet.

    Gotta admit, I would like them for staff related comments only and would use them. Wouldnt matter if you could search them etc in my case as it would be for comments like "Have PM'd him about this post" kinda comments. Things so that when other staff read individual posts they are aware someone else has done something with them.

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  • joeychgo
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    Thats what I mean by confusing.

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  • Ramsesx
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    Originally posted by cellarius View Post
    What's last post on a 20 page thread? The last post, or the last comment to a post on page 5? How do you follow read/unread? Just to name a few issues...
    Yes, the nested comments is a nice feature but in most cases a useless one.

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  • cellarius
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    Originally posted by joeychgo View Post
    Why dont I like them for regular users? 2 reasons.. Thread Hijacking and confusing to follow a conversation...
    What's last post on a 20 page thread? The last post, or the last comment to a post on page 5? How do you follow read/unread? Just to name a few issues...

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  • joeychgo
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    Originally posted by Paul M View Post
    Some people suggested that they may be useful for staff comments, so it would be useful if they could have some usergroup permissions on them.
    That would be a more complex change and has not yet been implemented.

    That is all I would use them for. Staff comments.

    Why dont I like them for regular users? 2 reasons.. Thread Hijacking and confusing to follow a conversation...

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  • Paul M
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    Originally posted by s.molinari View Post
    Aren't you like breaking the NDA like big time with this?
    No, he is not.


    Originally posted by s.molinari View Post
    So post comments was created and a concept to make it a half ways decent feature was made later, by the alpha testers(?), but hasn't yet been implemented?
    Post comments are a new feature, when we (as testers) first saw them, some liked them, some hated them.
    It was requested that there be the ability to turn them off, this was added.

    Some people suggested that they may be useful for staff comments, so it would be useful if they could have some usergroup permissions on them.
    That would be a more complex change and has not yet been implemented.

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  • cellarius
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    No, this has been discussed in here already. I'm referring to a suggestion made in one of the feedback threads in this forum. Plus, we are allowed to discuss functionality that is publicly visible.

    Geschrieben auf meinem A510 mit Forum Runner

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  • AusPhotography
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    Originally posted by Joe D. View Post
    It is a feature you can disable. Like with most new things, some people like it, some do not.
    Originally posted by s.molinari View Post
    I'd love to hear from someone who likes the new comment system, why they like it.
    I'm thinking to have it disabled on our main forums, once I figure out how to make it forum specific.

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  • Alfa1
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    Post comments will just get lost in long threads. Visible reputation comments I can get, but post comments seem useless to me.

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  • Sador
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    Originally posted by cellarius View Post
    There have been some use cases been brought forward, but most of them were linked to an integration into the permission system, which has (not yet???) happened. Like for Admin/Mod-Comments on a post, either completely internal, for the poster or for all to read.
    That's actually a rather nifty use for it.

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