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  • #16
    Originally posted by Idawg View Post

    Your support of 4 is onto security only now..
    That may be true in terms of development but you can still get technical support for vB4 and tech support is still pretty helpful.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joe D. View Post
      If you are happy with your site then I would suggest you stay with what makes you happy.

      But VB5 does have its benefits-

      1) Responsive Design
      2) Site Builder
      3) Stronger Passwords
      4) Option to require paid subscription to register
      5) Updated ckeditor

      Bonus #6 - Some people like the style better.
      The biggest benefit of vB5 that I can see is that it's slightly simpler and more intuitive. Biggest downside is the absence of the calendar (yes, I know you've produced a workaround with a Google calendar which isn't ideal but allows you to put one up there).

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      • #18
        The strange thing with calendars, is that in my thirteen years experience of using vBulletin, in which time I've been on literally multiple thousands of vBulletin sites, I've seen probably two or three sites where the calendar was actually put to any real use.

        Yet now we have people saying calendars are urgently needed. I'm sure some people have a genuine need for them, but I have hardly ever seen them used. I don't see them used as often as blogs and social groups, and thosed are quite rarely used in themselves.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Joe D. View Post

          4,2.3 is currently in Beta and is not a security fix so to say 4.x is only is "security only" isn't accurate. I'm not sure any firm decision has been made what may or may not happen to the 4.x line in the future. I would say major changes are likely off the table but other than that I don't think anyone is saying for sure. At one time we thought 3.x was only getting security updates, but then it get updates for PHP 5.4 and beyond.
          SOMEONE should have told vB Support this.... I have a screenie here of my ticket where he tells me what I put down there... I will be VERY ANGRY if it turns out I did not need to upgrade... Cause you cant DOWNGRADE as far as I know !!

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          Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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          • #20
            In that ticket I said "vBulletin 4 does not receive active development any longer, as it is not the current product."
            What that means is that we're not actively developing it...features aren't being added, the product is not "in development" in the way that vB5 is.
            That's not the same as no security fixes, and it's not the same as updating it for php version compatibility.
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            • #21
              I was basically told BY YOU that I should upgrade to 5... Now I have a forum my client does not want to use because it does not work that well... I pitched YOUR FORUMS HARD to them... SIGH
              "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
              Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
              Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Idawg View Post
                I was basically told BY YOU that I should upgrade to 5...
                No you were not. Please stop misrepresenting what I said to you in the support ticket system.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Idawg View Post

                  SOMEONE should have told vB Support this.... I have a screenie here of my ticket where he tells me what I put down there... I will be VERY ANGRY if it turns out I did not need to upgrade... Cause you cant DOWNGRADE as far as I know !!
                  The attachment photo is impossible to read.
                  Why not upload something bigger?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Idawg View Post

                    SOMEONE should have told vB Support this.... I have a screenie here of my ticket where he tells me what I put down there... I will be VERY ANGRY if it turns out I did not need to upgrade... Cause you cant DOWNGRADE as far as I know !!
                    Compare the backup from vb4 and vb5.
                    Specially table posts and users. I think can be roll back manually.
                    Probably users' passes are encrypted different way so all users should have to change them again.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by durruti View Post
                      The attachment photo is impossible to read.
                      Why not upload something bigger?
                      The uploaded image isn't the problem, it's the ridiculous implementation of the light box that's the problem. If you want to view the image as it was intended, load it into the light box, right click and select 'View Image'.

                      Something equally ridiculous is you can't spell check, cut text or directly access the clipboard when using Firefox here.
                      .

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by zappaDPJ View Post

                        The uploaded image isn't the problem, it's the ridiculous implementation of the light box that's the problem. If you want to view the image as it was intended, load it into the light box, right click and select 'View Image'.

                        Something equally ridiculous is you can't spell check, cut text or directly access the clipboard when using Firefox here.
                        What's a Light Box?
                        Where is it?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by durruti View Post
                          What's a Light Box?
                          Where is it?
                          check here:
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightbox_%28JavaScript%29

                          You'll see
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Idawg View Post
                            I was basically told BY YOU that I should upgrade to 5... Now I have a forum my client does not want to use because it does not work that well... I pitched YOUR FORUMS HARD to them... SIGH
                            Mark said VB 4.x is only getting PHP updates, which is basically true- an occasional small bug might get a fix here or there.

                            That is different from "security updates" which you claimed and I corrected. VB 4.x is getting more than security updates as it is getting PHP updates.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mark.B View Post
                              The strange thing with calendars, is that in my thirteen years experience of using vBulletin, in which time I've been on literally multiple thousands of vBulletin sites, I've seen probably two or three sites where the calendar was actually put to any real use.

                              Yet now we have people saying calendars are urgently needed. I'm sure some people have a genuine need for them, but I have hardly ever seen them used. I don't see them used as often as blogs and social groups, and thosed are quite rarely used in themselves.
                              We've been using the calendar for years...we use the blogs as well. What made the calendar easier to use (for us) was when the navigation manager was introduced in vB4 because it made it easier to find. I can't understand why anybody would *not* want a calendar.

                              We've never had much success with the social groups.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Joe D. View Post
                                If you are happy with your site then I would suggest you stay with what makes you happy.

                                But VB5 does have its benefits-


                                3) Stronger Passwords
                                What makes the passwords stronger in vB5 over vB4?

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