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  • #16
    Haven't decided yet. Depends on what features it brings and how stable the gold release is this time round.
    A computer without Microsoft Windows is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
    vBulletin user since March 2004, joined forum a year later, migration from vBulletin began April 2013. After 6 years of negativity, even old die-hard fans lose faith.

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    • #17
      Voted: NO... Use the vbulletin since 2006, last year I gave several chances to try to continue with it ... in recent weeks I have thought seriously about using Xenforo ..

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      • #18
        That totally depends on the release. It needs to be a rewrite.

        But there also is a major risk of it being another pile of bugs and no interest from Internet Brands to invest in improvement after receiving the cash. I still have unused vb4 licenses, so I'm only buying if I know I will be upgrading.
        I buy 420 forums

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        • #19
          I'll only buy if its a completely re-written program from the ground up. I will not be suckered into another pre-release deals buying software sight unseen or test drove...
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          • #20
            Honestly if they value my money spent on the 4.x forum + CMS only then I'll go for it again, otherwise no.

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            • #21
              If I continue to see improvement in vB4, I most likely will, assuming no features are lost in transition. I strongly doubt I'll be buying into a sight unseen pre-sale this time around however.
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              • #22
                not a chance.
                even in the very unlikely event that it turned out to be the greatest product on earth, what i have seen of ib and their corporate credo leaves me with a very distinct desire to ensure i give them not even one penny ever again.
                Into the Void

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                • #23
                  buying "vBulletin 5" is WRONG, I may consider to RENEW/buy "vBulletin" versionless LICENSE

                  what is point of buying product with VERSION NUMBER, if version number doesn't mean ANYTHING

                  no roadmap
                  promises will be ignored
                  additional payed add-ons introduced at any moment
                  new version released at any moment with unknown price

                  of course it make sense for company to trick peoples to buy unknown product line, with unknown roadmap, unknown upcoming features, unknown quality, unknown EOL, unknown support quality and then do whatever they want without risks (all money payed upfront), but why anyone from client side want to follow this licensing scheme that doesn't work and proved to be much worse then previous licensing structure (which is used by all other companies in this market)

                  Even if they have Kier and original crew back (you can forget about it)... I still think it would be wrong to buy product lines instead of versionless license...

                  IB itself used yearly licensing scheme for their recent add-on products, so it is better wait a few year and buy vbulletin product only after they will be back to normal licensing.

                  While they use this scam lisensing scheme, if you really want to get software and cant wait or use alternatives, I can only recommend you to buy lisenses on second hand market (preferably full account and old email access, so you can sell it again).
                  Last edited by lim (x³-7x²) = ∞; Sat 31st Dec '11, 12:57am.
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                  • #24
                    Agreed.


                    vB5 is unequivocally the best forum software, but not yet...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lim (x³-7x²) = ∞ View Post
                      so it is better wait a few year and buy vbulletin product only after they will be back to normal licensing.
                      If you can afford to wait, then good for you. We have been watching vb going nowhere for 3 years now. If IB doesn't get its act together fast, then I and several other big board owners will be gone. People are heavily investing time in making other software platforms suitable for their needs.
                      I buy 420 forums

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Alfa1 View Post
                        If you can afford to wait, then good for you. We have been watching vb going nowhere for 3 years now. If IB doesn't get its act together fast, then I and several other big board owners will be gone. People are heavily investing time in making other software platforms suitable for their needs.
                        I hope vB5 is amazing... but given the track record of the last few years combined with the fact that vBSI employees aren't allowed to even talk about what's might be coming in the future...

                        Customers are now supposed to just go on blind faith, because clearly vBSI's track record proves they can under promise and over-deliver. lol errr... yeah.

                        But yes... myself (like many others) are building contingency plans just in case vB5 isn't absolutely amazing (i.e. in my case, it's rewriting 1.2M lines of code I've built around the vBulletin framework for other frameworks). http://cl.ly/3e0w2Z0l2A3k390Y0K09

                        If vB5 blows us away, all previous missteps will be quickly forgotten... If not, at least we have a plan B we can implement with the push of a button. {shrug}
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by digitalpoint View Post
                          (i.e. in my case, it's rewriting 1.2M lines of code I've built around the vBulletin framework for other frameworks).
                          Something to look forward to, eh? :P

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                          • #28
                            70% less time and 40% less memory, not bad. I bet we'll seeing it tomorrow.
                            .......

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by digitalpoint View Post
                              I hope vB5 is amazing... but given the track record of the last few years combined with the fact that vBSI employees aren't allowed to even talk about what's might be coming in the future...

                              Customers are now supposed to just go on blind faith, because clearly vBSI's track record proves they can under promise and over-deliver. lol errr... yeah.

                              But yes... myself (like many others) are building contingency plans just in case vB5 isn't absolutely amazing (i.e. in my case, it's rewriting 1.2M lines of code I've built around the vBulletin framework for other frameworks). http://cl.ly/3e0w2Z0l2A3k390Y0K09

                              If vB5 blows us away, all previous missteps will be quickly forgotten... If not, at least we have a plan B we can implement with the push of a button. {shrug}
                              I'm going to invest a small fortune into the development of the features I need. Its a big project. When the first phase is ready, allowing me to migrate my site without functionality loss or data loss, then I will move over. Unless vb5 blows us away. But it will need to be pretty spectacular to negate the investments made at that point. And it will need to arrive in time.
                              I buy 420 forums

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                              • #30
                                I reluctantly voted Yes, with regards to purchasing VB5. The biggest reason why is not VB it self. I agree with many people that have posted here that VB needs alot of work especially in the area of bug fixes. Yes VB continues to fix a large number of bugs with each new version. However, with the pending release of VB5, there should be a greater effort at testing every aspect of the product and to eliminate these bugs prior to the release of the product in the first place.

                                It amazes me that there doesn't seem to be any core standard with regards to any software release, not just VB. Afterall, when a new vehicle is released onto the market and several bugs or defects are discovered, the company usually issues a recall. Then once the bugs or defects are fixed, then the vehicle is re-released.

                                Back to the reason why I voted yes. I'm currently investing a small fortune developing a series of plugins that are needed specifically for my needs and each plugin is to be fully integrated with my VB4 site. I cringe the thought of having to spend even more money on starting from scratch.

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