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  • [Forum] Hundreds of spam users signing up a day!

    I have tried all the different forms of human verification.
    I used to use the questions with simple things like "what is 2 - 3 + 4 =" but then we started getting hundreds of spammers singing up, so I changed the questions but to no effect. I then tried captcha and image but neither of them made a difference.
    Have you got any ideas?
    They never make it out of the usergroup awaiting email confirmation. So they don't finish the registration or post.
    Just bloody annoying as I hadn't pruned them for a while and last night I had to remove over 5000!

  • #2
    If you're having spam trouble try the following-

    We have determined the most effective "Human Verification" currently built into vBulletin is "Question and Answer" verification.

    To enable this go to your Admin CP -> Settings -> Human Verification Manager. (In VB 3.x it is Admin CP -> vBulletin Options -> Human Verification Manager)

    Click on this link.

    On the new page choose the option for "Question & Answer Verification."

    If this is the first time you are using it you will need to add one or more questions and answers. To add your first question click on the "Add New Question" near the bottom center of the page.

    On the next page enter a question. Do not make this a math question (what is 2+2?)- Math questions are absolutely worthless. If your forum is about a specific topic try to make the question something someone interested in your niche would likely know. If not still make a question that requires a human to answer- creativity helps here.

    An example question would be: If there are three people in a room how many total toes are likely in the room?

    Leave the box for "Regular Expression" blank. Use it only if you understand Regular Expressions.

    Hit "Save"

    On the next page there will now be a button "Add New Answer" - Press It.

    The next page is one simple box marked "Answer." Enter the answer to the question. Questions can have multiple correct answers.

    Answers are NOT case sensitive so if you put "thirty" in as an answer both "Thirty" and "THIRTY" will also work.

    Enter "thirty" as the answer (without quotes.)

    Save.

    Now you will be back on the page where you can press the "Add New Answer" again, press it.

    This time add the answer: 30
    And hit "Save" again.

    If your forum is multi-lingual you may want to continue adding answers to cover the word "thirty" in different languages.

    When you believe you have set every possible correct answer you can click on the Admin CP Menu to go back to "Human Verification Manager" and repeat the process to add additional questions.

    The more questions you have the better you will be- five is a good minimum, 10 or more is better.

    We have found forums that implement good Q&A questions stop nearly all "bot" spam. (We have documented drops of a 90% reduction in registrations, all of which were spammers.) There will always be spam created by humans though who cannot be blocked by easy questions. If you feel you still have too much spam to handle please check out various "anti-spam" mods available on vBulletin.org:

    Glowhost Spam-o-Matic (with username checking disabled)
    vB Bad Behavior.

    Please note like all vBulletin modifications we do not provide official support for 3rd party mods, you will need to ask for help in the threads of the mod in question if you need help installing, configuring, or using the mod.

    Overall the best defense against spam is to have an active and vigilant moderator staff able to find and delete spam quickly. Educate forum users on how to use the "Report Post" button to report spam. Do not let the forum run without a moderator or administrator making regular visits to keep an eye on things.

    For further help and information please read THIS thread.
    MARK.B | vBULLETIN SUPPORT

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    • #3
      Зайдите в панель администратора => Управление отделением людей от роботов => Поставьте галочку "Проверка вопросом и ответом на него" => Далее придумайте 3-4 вопроса и ответы на них.

      Спама больше не будет.

      Go to the administrator panel => Administration Department of the people from the robots => Check the box "Test question and answer to it" => Next, think of 3-4 questions and the answers to them.

      Spam will be no more.
      Форум бухгалтеров и аудиторов Glbyh.Ru. Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

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      • #4
        You must have missed it, but I have been running Q&A on the board and even tried changing the questions to no avail. Since my first post I have had 37 new spammers join up!
        I will check out he mods, but would rather sort it without mods. Any other ideas?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dom_ View Post
          You must have missed it, but I have been running Q&A on the board and even tried changing the questions to no avail. Since my first post I have had 37 new spammers join up!
          I will check out he mods, but would rather sort it without mods. Any other ideas?
          The mods are pretty much the only way if Q&A is failing, though good, well thought out Q&A will still stop a lot of them. You may need to rethink your questions.

          The Spam-o-matic mod is widely used and is not known for causing problems, so don't be afraid to utilise it.
          MARK.B | vBULLETIN SUPPORT

          TalkNewsUK - My vBulletin 5.6.2 Demo
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          • #6
            Originally posted by dom_ View Post
            You must have missed it, but I have been running Q&A on the board and even tried changing the questions to no avail. Since my first post I have had 37 new spammers join up!
            I will check out he mods, but would rather sort it without mods. Any other ideas?
            I have no spam. Although earlier it was spam.

            Придумайте вопросы согласно тематики вашего сайта, но не общеизвестные. Вопросы должны быть не простыми и не сильно сложными.

            Think of the questions according to the subject of your website, but not well-known. The questions should be simple and not very complex.
            Last edited by SWSUSA; Thu 3 Jan '13, 1:37pm.
            Форум бухгалтеров и аудиторов Glbyh.Ru. Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

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            • #7
              We use Spam-O-Matic on our board, and have it tied to the Akisnet and StopForumSpam databases. AMAZING mod. No custom templates or edits. Install the product and upload the files, and then configure it. We've had it running for 2 weeks and have blocked over 200 spammers from registration already.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dom_ View Post
                Any other ideas?
                As Mark suggested create good questions and answers.

                Q:2+3=
                A:5

                Q: What colour is the sky?
                A:Blue

                Five of them to create takes 5-10 minutes of your time.
                Easy to create for you,easy to crack for the bots.
                Takes long hours to remove the accounts registered by them.


                vB5 is unequivocally the best forum software, but not yet...

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                • #9
                  Question and answers will have little effect if your site is being targeted. Once the bots know the answers, they'll share it in a spam database.
                  Keycaptcha is good, spam-o-matic is good. There are dozens of spam prevention mods at vb.org, I'd suggest tightening up your registration page.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Loco.M View Post
                    Question and answers will have little effect if your site is being targeted.
                    They do, provided the first posts are moderated.
                    Bots cannot answer the questions, cannot register.
                    Human spammers are giving up when they see that their posts are not appearing.
                    Is it worth to go to a site and answer questions share the answers in a database?
                    It is worth only when the targeted forum is large.


                    vB5 is unequivocally the best forum software, but not yet...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by beishe8 View Post
                      They do, provided the first posts are moderated.
                      Bots cannot answer the questions, cannot register.
                      Human spammers are giving up when they see that their posts are not appearing.
                      Is it worth to go to a site and answer questions share the answers in a database?
                      It is worth only when the targeted forum is large.
                      ya... ok
                      well good luck with that
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Loco.M View Post
                        ya... ok
                        well good luck with that
                        Thanks, I have.


                        One spammer a week? No problem.
                        1-5-15 a day? Time to change the Qs and As.


                        vB5 is unequivocally the best forum software, but not yet...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by beishe8 View Post
                          One spammer a week? No problem.
                          1-5-15 a day? Time to change the Qs and As.
                          Or you can really protect yourself and get zero spammers a week
                          What happens when the bots "crack" the question, and you get 900 users sign up in a matter of hours? (that happen to me and many others when xrumer was updated a few months ago)

                          Question and Answer should never tagged as a reliable solution for combating spam bots.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Loco.M View Post
                            Or you can really protect yourself and get zero spammers a week
                            It would be hard. Very hard.Very,very,very... hard.

                            What happens when the bots "crack" the question, and you get 900 users sign up in a matter of hours? (that happen to me and many others when xrumer was updated a few months ago)
                            As I said above: Time to change them.

                            Question and Answer should never tagged as a reliable solution for combating spam bots.

                            They are trying hard on different ways, without success:
                            [Fri Jan 04 15:24:38 2013] [error] [client 59.58.138.185] File does not exist: /home/*******/public_html/register.php*****....
                            [Fri Jan 04 15:24:32 2013] [error] [client 59.58.138.185] File does not exist: /home/*******/public_html/join.php****....
                            [Fri Jan 04 15:24:32 2013] [error] [client 59.58.138.185] File does not exist: /home/*******/public_html/signup****....


                            vB5 is unequivocally the best forum software, but not yet...

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                            • #15
                              Are we comparing spam logs?..lol
                              I've had 4,737 attempts since 12/4/12 (one month ago)
                              If I only had Q&A, I guarantee more then 80% would have gotten through

                              All I'm saying is Q/A isn't very effected in the long run, I don't want to worry about changing my questions every week to block spam.
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