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  • #16
    Everyone here is here to help, including the support staff from VB. You come on here disrespecting everyone, but you want their help. Can't you understand why you got the reaction you got? What did you expect?

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    • #17
      Contact your web host for support.

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      • #18
        Hi Affiliatex,

        I well understand your frustration, it can be hard when you are not used to the ferociousness of these spam attacks. It may also be embarrasing if the links are to p0rn and you are implementing your forum for a client.

        However, a quick overview of the spam issue may help clarify who is really at fault and what you can do about it. The issue is not vBulletin, we chose VB for our forum because it is much more secure than most of its competitors, especially the free options out there.

        To get to the bottom of the real issue, spammers, you need to look at their process.

        Firstly spammers don't do this stuff manually, they run scripts or 'bots' to first trawl the web for vulnerable forums. They collect these links to use over and over, sell and trade with their mates. Pros will amass lists with millions of different forums they can target.

        The spammer will then use the list to automate registrations with the sole purpose of trying to get a link. They may run their list multiple times in a day, meaning once your forum is on someones list you could be getting targeted from now until eternity with multiple spam registrations per hour.

        The answer is to remember they are automating this, and to lock down the registration process as much as you can, which will stop them from getting in in the first place.

        Zachary makes a good point:
        The default Image verification is not enough to stop spammers, Q&A is the best, followed by reCapcha.
        I would definetly look at recaptcha, the default image verification is crackable by software - so don't rely on this.

        If you stop them at this point you won't have the spam issue.

        Hope that helps
        I'm a web developer working at Ninja Kiwi games!
        Ninja Kiwi

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        • #19
          recaptcha has been hacked, Q&A seems to be the best way to stop spammers. I've had a few still register, you can select email verification and they still may get by, but you can decide to activate your members manually in the acp every time to add another layer of security.

          You'll only have to deal with human spammers at that point.

          http://www.allspammedup.com/2011/01/...ptcha-cracked/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mark.B View Post
            start asking politely for assistance.
            Bit late for that now !, that said, an apology takes courage sometimes but done in the right way will be rewarded I'm sure ?
            <<<<<<<<< It is over there !

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            • #21
              There's an addon at vbulletin.org that utilizes the stopforumspam website. IIRC the name of the addon is vbStopForumSpam - works like a charm, easy plugin.
              Spark
              Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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              "Only Sharp Knives are Interesting"

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              • #22
                Originally posted by traen View Post
                recaptcha has been hacked, Q&A seems to be the best way to stop spammers. I've had a few still register, you can select email verification and they still may get by, but you can decide to activate your members manually in the acp every time to add another layer of security.

                You'll only have to deal with human spammers at that point.

                http://www.allspammedup.com/2011/01/...ptcha-cracked/
                All Captchas are crackable, however recaptcha is still the most difficult to compromise, that's why Google, and a lot of big players use it for things like gmail signups, etc.

                There are also services out there where people will type in captchas for you, for a fee. I've looked at spam software and in some packages it is possible to setup an account with a captcha typing service and just pay someone to manually enter thousands of captchas for you for a few cents each... It's war out there, people.

                The answer is still to go for a recaptcha and a secondary means of verification, Q&A is good.
                I'm a web developer working at Ninja Kiwi games!
                Ninja Kiwi

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Spark View Post
                  There's an addon at vbulletin.org that utilizes the stopforumspam website. IIRC the name of the addon is vbStopForumSpam - works like a charm, easy plugin.
                  Yes, this is another good option, but still requires that someone , somewhere in the food chain is doing some work. Spammers are blocked via IP address. So offenders who register on one forum and are flagged will then be denied when they try to get into the next forum that runs this plugin.

                  It's another form of protection.
                  I'm a web developer working at Ninja Kiwi games!
                  Ninja Kiwi

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by josiah1 View Post
                    Bit late for that now !, that said, an apology takes courage sometimes but done in the right way will be rewarded I'm sure ?
                    I don't think Affiliatex owes anyone an apology. If we all stop for a second and look at this from each others point of view, Affiliatex was only reacting to the fact his forum software, which he paid money for, was constantly being compromised. With his level of understanding of forum management, how was he to know who to blame? It's logical to first take your complaint to the people you purchased the product from. When you buy vBulletin there is no warning that says Do not buy this if you do are not an expert in managing forum spam.

                    Everyone else reacting here and telling him he doesn't know what he is doing is only going to aggravate the situation.

                    It's better to explain the root of the problem, then everyone can see there is no need to point a finger at anyone, except the spammer ;-)
                    I'm a web developer working at Ninja Kiwi games!
                    Ninja Kiwi

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by affiliatex View Post
                      VBulletin 4.1.2 Is Corrupt


                      I have done 3 new installs to try and fix this.

                      Every time I do a new install, there is immediately 2-3 users with a porn thread.

                      Come on owners of vBulletin, can you please get your act together.
                      There was no question there. His post is just spam (or trolling) itself.

                      In another thread he said he had ignored his forum for 4 months. He created the problem and now he wants to find someone else to blame. Maybe if he has actually asked a question or for help he would have gotten answers sooner. He's got himself on the spammers "easy" list now so his job will be ten times harder.

                      You can help him if you choose, but he said he didn't want help from "users".

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                      • #26
                        There are mods that work wonders against spam. vBulletin.org is the place to go for help on this one. Glowhost makes an almost magical one that makes all spam protection easy and under one roof.
                        No, my site isn't about Motorcycle Maintenance...

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