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  • Mermaid
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    A further thought:

    Thanks to everyone who's answered. maybe I didn't word the original post too well. I do understand that phpbb and vbulletin have different ways of doing things.

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  • Mermaid
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    Originally posted by nakedanvil View Post
    The discussion (I thought) mostly was concerned with moderating new registrants. COPPA's are (I believe) just a special class of "users awaiting moderation".
    Yes, I understand. My problem is that enabling "moderation" for new registrants would do exactly what I want, if it worked all the time. My problem is that when COPPA is also enabled, it doesn't work as a system to moderate all new registrants, as they then all get a message asking for a parental form, which is a bit crazy for a 56 year old.

    So I still don't know if this is a bug or whether there is a workaround for me. It seems if I want all registrants automatically moderated, I cannot have COPPA enabled.

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  • nakedanvil
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    The discussion (I thought) mostly was concerned with moderating new registrants. COPPA's are (I believe) just a special class of "users awaiting moderation".

    If you are using moderation, you evaluate registrants and then assign them to usergroups depending on your own criteria. But even "guests" and registrants are distinct usergroups to which you can assign a set of permissions.

    Some of the confusion stems ( I think) from the different terminology used by PHPBB and vBulletin. vBulletin has much more robust permissions requiring more exact word definitions. This allows for very exacting permissions to be established. The flip side is that PHPBB, having fewer choices, is simpler and easier to use.
    Last edited by nakedanvil; Mon 19 Apr '10, 2:57pm.

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  • Mermaid
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    Originally posted by nakedanvil View Post
    Again; admin approval is the same thing as moderation.
    I can understand how this may be true, albeit a bit confusing. But actually implementing it is till eluding me. I'm sure it's possible, but it seems complicated.

    So far it looks like I can't do this if I have COPPA enabled, and also I have to change the default settings for the COPPA usergroup.

    But I always thought COPPA was to do with child protection laws, so why it's even a part of this discussion seems odd.

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  • nakedanvil
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    RE Post #17)
    Originally posted by Mermaid View Post
    • Someone registers.
    • Admin get an email saying they registered and can approve it or not.
    • Meanwhile the person who registered gets an email saying they are awaiting admin approval, and once they get that, they can post.

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    Again; admin approval is the same thing as moderation.

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  • nakedanvil
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    RE: Post #1)
    Originally posted by Mermaid View Post
    Is it possible to make it so that after someone has registered, their account is inactive until an admin approves it (as with phpbb) ?

    Thanks
    Yes, "administrator approval" is just another phrase for "moderation".

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  • Mermaid
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    Originally posted by Zachery View Post
    Okay, then AdminCP > Usergroups > Usergroup Manager > Edit the (COPPA) Users Awaiting Moderation usergroup, REMOVE all of thier permissions (set them to no). Then enable User Moderation under Use Registration Options
    The problem with that is if COPPA is enabled, everyone who joins (whatever their age) is asked for a parental form.

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  • Mermaid
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    Originally posted by Zachery View Post
    Users in COPPA are there because they're too young to leaglly be on your board without your parrents approval. You should not be letting them view/post on your forums without getting the COPPA form from their parrents.
    That's right, I have the forms from the parents

    Originally posted by nakedanvil View Post
    So, after moderating by parental approval, do they stay in COPPA or are they put into another usergroup (typically)?
    They go into another group which I call "COPPA approved", and they have permissions to post but no PMs and posts are moderated.

    Originally posted by Zachery View Post
    Once you recieve their parrents approval in the form you're supposed to move them into another group then not change the COPPA checkbox
    I know that. it's exactly what I have done

    Originally posted by nakedanvil View Post
    Thanks Zac! I understand now. I hope the OP does too.
    Yes, I understand about usergroups and permissions etc, but this was not my question. (see post 1 and 17)

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  • nakedanvil
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    Thanks Zac! I understand now. I hope the OP does too.

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  • Zachery
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    Once you recieve their parrents approval in the form you're supposed to move them into another group then not change the COPPA checkbox

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  • nakedanvil
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    So, after moderating by parental approval, do they stay in COPPA or are they put into another usergroup (typically)?

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  • Zachery
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    Users in COPPA are there because they're too young to leaglly be on your board without your parrents approval. You should not be letting them view/post on your forums without getting the COPPA form from their parrents.

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  • nakedanvil
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    I guess in that case I don't know what you want. Start over and list exactly what you want each group to be able to do. I "think" COPPA is just for screening. After registration and approval, what do you think it achieves that a "children" user group would not?

    Zachery: Don't mean to butt in too much, just trying to help out and learn at the same time. Sometime being a noob makes it easier for me to understand and explain. (And sometimes not, I suppose).

    Edit: After review, I may not know enough about COPPA to be speaking on the subject. I don't use it. But I still have a group "awaiting moderation" which is where I thought this started.
    Last edited by nakedanvil; Sun 18 Apr '10, 3:22pm.

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  • Mermaid
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    Originally posted by nakedanvil View Post
    You can create as many groups as you like, each with whatever permissions you assign.
    I could, but that's what I though "COPPA" was for, besides I don't see how that would achieve what I want.

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  • nakedanvil
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    You can create as many groups as you like, each with whatever permissions you assign. I'm just a noobie at this, so don't take anything I say as the final word. Sorry if I seemed impatient at first.
    Last edited by nakedanvil; Sun 18 Apr '10, 12:46pm.

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