[Forum] Fresh Install of 4.1.x and importing 3.8.4 Database

[tlwwolfseye]

Hi guys,

I am planing on a new Install on one of the Websites I am administrating. Currently its still running 3.8.4 but I wanted to create it from scratch with 4.1.x (latest).
Just that I dont want to loose the DB (Posts, Users, Forums, Threads) and I don't really want to make an upgrade, too many things that can go wrong with that. Also too many old Mods installed that are partly not existent on 4.x and/or have been upgraded by now. I rather do a fresh install.

So when I first backup all the Database from the 3.8.4, can I after installing 4.1.x then just import the pieces from the old DB that I need (Posts, Users, Forums, Threads) without a problem or is will there be issues doing it this way ?

Whats most important to avoid problems ?

Thank you in advance.

Wolfseye

[Ace]

Why is doing an Upgrade any more "things go wrong with" than exporting a DB and attempting to impex it into a 4.1.x installation?

[tlwwolfseye]

There is already a lot things that aren't working completely anymore, happend over time. And because of that I want to have a fresh installation.

[John Regan]

An upgrade is almost like a fresh installation. You upload a clean batch of files; your products, plugins, and styles usually won't work anymore; and the extra crap you put in your database will be ignored by vB 4. IMPEX is great for certain things, but if I were in your position, I wouldn't use it.

[Ace]

The impact on traffic alone would be enough to put me off.

[John Regan]

The impact on traffic alone would be enough to put me off.

Yup. All of your forums and threads would have different IDs. That's not what we in the business call "good seo".

[Trevor Hannant]

To add to the post above, if you choose Impex as an upgrade method and anything goes wrong, you won't get support.

[dougdirac]

So what did this guy end up doing? I'm in a similar situation. Why would the forums and threads have different IDs? Couldn't that be preserved?

[Zachery]

They get different ids because impex doesn't force them, and no they can't reasonably. You should upgrade. ImpEx is a last resort and should almost NEVER be used to get around the upgrader.

[dougdirac]

I have to use impex? I can't just copy some files over? In my case it's 4.1.10 to 4.2.

[Zachery]

Are you upgrading? Upgrade

[dougdirac]

Yes, I'm upgrading. But my CMS is broken and when I tried upgrading on a test server, that didn't fix it. Plus there are a bunch of old mods and legacy files from vB3 and long since broken styles that I'd like to get rid of.

[Zachery]

So get rid of the files and use new ones, then upgrade.

So how is the cms broken? You're telling us you're having problems and want to fix them via the most extreme method possible. Instead of just fixing the problems that exsist. Your CMS content might not come over well either.

[dougdirac]

Thanks. We've never used the CMS before, so there's no content there yet. I had already made another thread on that so as not to derail this one: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/show...452-broken-CMS