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    ... a vBulletin with

    Users: 32,391, Threads: 183,396, Posts: 3,263,293

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  • #2
    forums are just like web sites bandwidth is made of basically how many visitors load how many pages and what size each of those pages are (pics + text)

    As to storage

    With vBulletin there are 2 different types of disk space usage:
    (1) Web space - For the PHP scripts and images of vBulletin.

    (2) MySQL database space - Which is separate from Web space, and you need to make sure your host gives you enough space in that department.

    When you use vBulletin, you have to take into account both web space and MySQL database space. vBulletin 2.2.x consists of:
    1. PHP scripts and image files in the zip file you download = 1.65mb in size once zip file is extracted and uploaded to your Web site account.

    2. MySQL database space which holds the actual vBulletin data:
    - On initial install the MySQL database space used is approximately 2mb, and that is mainly the database table structure and initial data in the database tables.
    - Once you start posting, adding threads, members, polls, private messages, attachments, avatars etc, your MySQL database space is the one that grows and should be your main concern - MySQL disk space.

    How much MySQL disk space is used is highly dependent on the type of forum you run, and factors such as:
    - Your average allowed attachment and avatar size
    - How many attachments and avatars you have stored in your vBulletin database
    - How many private messages you have stored in your vBulletin database from members
    - How many posts and threads you have and the size and variables you have set for your searchindex
    - How many members you have
    - How many forums you have
    And so on and so forth.

    For example, one installation we have seen had 5,800+ members, 40,000 threads, 662,000 posts, 70,000 private messages and 8,000 attachments. The total MySQL database size was 940MB - which comes to around 140MB per 100,000 posts. Please note that it does vary from forum to forum, so your mileage may vary.


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    • #3
      Great feedback. I do not know how much bandwidth other car site communities have but I would assume ALOT. A benchmark I use is www.my350z.com.

      Would this type of plan be enough to start off a community as i mentioned previously, Members: 25,184 | Threads: 54,414 | Posts: 593,722

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      • #4
        It depends on how many concurrent users your board has on average. But assuming your board is fairly active, i'd say that the server you are looking at isn't good enough.

        My forum runs on a ServerMatrix Intel P4 2.8Ghz server with 1024mb RAM. My board has Threads: 14,930, Posts: 216,184, Members: 3,158. The load does go above 1.5 every day. At the moment we don't notice any performance decrease. However, due to the fact that the load becomes higher than i would like it to be, we are looking into a Dual Xeon.. So really to be on the safe side i'd suggest you get a server with Dual CPU's. (At least 2ghz per CPU, and at least 1gb RAM)
        Last edited by HostOrbit; Sun 15 Feb '04, 1:15am.

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        • #5
          Well in the beginning I wont need this much capacity. Looking at the costs/expansion on a business level would it be unwise to start a vbulletin on a virtual hosting plan with a vendor that says "unlimited mysql space?"

          Looking at webair, who charges $9.95/month for
          • 500 MB Storage
          • Unrestricted Bandwidth
          • 1 IP Address
          • Unlimited Email
          • Unlimited Domains
          • Free Ecommerce Setup
          • Autoresponders
          • Control Panel
          • 25 GB Transfer


          When the site traffic and storage becomes more exhausted, I can then upgrade accordingly to dedicated.

          Thoughts?
          Last edited by mattnyu99; Sun 15 Feb '04, 11:50am.

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          • #6
            There is no such thing as "unrestricted bandwidth" and "unlimited MySQL storage"

            Originally posted by mattnyu99
            Well in the beginning I wont need this much capacity. Looking at the costs/expansion on a business level would it be unwise to start a vbulletin on a virtual hosting plan with a vendor that says "unlimited mysql space?"

            Looking at webair, who charges $9.95/month for
            • 500 MB Storage
            • Unrestricted Bandwidth
            • 1 IP Address
            • Unlimited Email
            • Unlimited Domains
            • Free Ecommerce Setup
            • Autoresponders
            • Control Panel
            • 25 GB Transfer


            When the site traffic and storage becomes more exhausted, I can then upgrade accordingly to dedicated.

            Thoughts?
            ...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mattnyu99
              Well in the beginning I wont need this much capacity. Looking at the costs/expansion on a business level would it be unwise to start a vbulletin on a virtual hosting plan with a vendor that says "unlimited mysql space?"

              Looking at webair, who charges $9.95/month for
              • 500 MB Storage
              • Unrestricted Bandwidth
              • 1 IP Address
              • Unlimited Email
              • Unlimited Domains
              • Free Ecommerce Setup
              • Autoresponders
              • Control Panel
              • 25 GB Transfer


              When the site traffic and storage becomes more exhausted, I can then upgrade accordingly to dedicated.

              Thoughts?
              "Unrestricted Bandwidth"
              "25 GB Transfer"

              Got to love how companies reel you in. Yea it's unlimited as long as your under 25 GB in "Transfer Bandwidth" a month. Catching wording to lie to people and hopes they can grab you.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HostOrbit
                It depends on how many concurrent users your board has on average. But assuming your board is fairly active, i'd say that the server you are looking at isn't good enough.

                My forum runs on a ServerMatrix Intel P4 2.8Ghz server with 1024mb RAM. My board has Threads: 14,930, Posts: 216,184, Members: 3,158. The load does go above 1.5 every day. At the moment we don't notice any performance decrease. However, due to the fact that the load becomes higher than i would like it to be, we are looking into a Dual Xeon.. So really to be on the safe side i'd suggest you get a server with Dual CPU's. (At least 2ghz per CPU, and at least 1gb RAM)
                I can agree on that. We have a IBM x345 with dual Xeon 2.4GHz and 1GB RAM and Windows 2000 Server (PHP ISAPI). We have 100% CPU when exceeding 2.200 online users (15min timeout).

                We are actually UPGRADING from Xeon to PowerPC G5's in April. We ordered a Apple Xserve dual G5 two weeks ago.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bjornstrom
                  I can agree on that. We have a IBM x345 with dual Xeon 2.4GHz and 1GB RAM and Windows 2000 Server (PHP ISAPI). We have 100% CPU when exceeding 2.200 online users (15min timeout).

                  We are actually UPGRADING from Xeon to PowerPC G5's in April. We ordered a Apple Xserve dual G5 two weeks ago.
                  You could always upgrade to Windows 2003 Server, it performs much much faster than Windows 2000.

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