Suggestions for moving up beyond a shared server, to cloud, VPS or dedicated

[joiner42]

When the two year prepaid plan ($1176. was what I paid) for the 8Gb server expired, I ended up up prepaying for two years for a higher Gb server with the same outfit, Liquid Web. The choice was either pay full price less 30% on a monthly basis for an 8Gb server with Liquid Web (came to $102.20 per month), or discounted rate prepaid for two years for 16Gb server ($2280.), which came to about $7. less per month for a better server. This includes cPanel for 5 accounts. Fully managed, and their tech support is excellent.

• 16Gb RAM
• 8 vCPU Cores
• 200 GB SSD Storage
• 10 TB Bandwidth
• Linux

Looks like the 8Gb version of the above is now only $840. for two years, but in any case, at prepaid plan's expiration renewing on a prepaid basis for the same plan is not an option. Maybe in two years LW will let me renew for the lesser plan, prepaid?

Thank you

[MDawg]

When the two year prepaid plan ($1176. was what I paid) for the 8Gb server expired, I ended up prepaying for two years for a higher Gb server with the same outfit, Liquid Web. The choice was either pay full price less 30% on a monthly basis for an 8Gb server with Liquid Web (came to $102.20 per month), or discounted rate prepaid for two years for 16Gb server ($2280.), which came to about $7. less per month for a better server. This includes cPanel for 5 accounts. Fully managed, and their tech support is excellent.

$2280. for two years (prepaid), VPS, includes cPanel for 5 accounts, fully managed:

• 16Gb RAM
• 8 vCPU Cores
• 200 GB SSD Storage
• 10 TB Bandwidth
• Linux

Looks like the 8Gb version of the above is now only $840. for two years, but in any case, at prepaid plan's expiration renewing on a prepaid basis for the same plan is not an option. Maybe in two years LW will let me renew for the lesser plan, prepaid?

[joiner42]

Very Fast

[MDawg]

I run more than four forums, but the issue is not the number of forums but the traffic. How many people are signed on at the same time on your forum? What kind of Alexa stats? How fast do the private messages load for you in the vbMessenger?

[joiner42]

I run 4 forums on It I have plenty of room on it.

[MDawg]

How much traffic do you get? How many people signed on at a time.

But you see - when I compare the bigwetfish plan that is equivalent to what I have now, it is actually £169.00 GBP per month which is even more.

[joiner42]

I am on a Single Server its https://manage.bigwetfish.hosting/in...ccount-servers

[MDawg]

I may need to leave my host at end of this year because the special prepaid price I paid (1176. for two years)

• 8 Gb RAM
• 8 vCPU
• 150 GB SSD Disk Space
• 10 TB Bandwidth
• Linux
• cPanel
• FULLY MANAGED

will jump to 146. USD per month although supposedly they will offer me some sort of deal. I am happy with my host though, just don't want to pay 146. per month.

If the "deal" they offer me at end of year isn't good enough, what else do people recommend for something equivalent where the LONG TERM costs will be lower?

[joiner42]

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[MDawg]

One thing I have been impressed with is Liquid Web's technical support and tweaking of settings to optimize the database, a well as setting everything properly for everything from email to .htaccess LW has been eager to help with every issue and at no point has passed the buck to vbulletin by claiming that they "are not programmed to respond in that area."

nocix.net sounds tempting but at those prices I doubt it is fully managed or even managed at all? I think it pretty much comes down to, as I have stated before, that no one is giving anything away. If they charge less it is because it is not fully managed or lacking cpanel bundled in. I think it comes down to good customer service, and so far, Liquid Web is delivering.

[TREKKIE99]

I would recommend that you go to https://www.nocix.net They have pre-configured DEDICATED servers starting at $25.00/mo and customizable DEDICATED servers starting at $34.00/mo You just need to install a control panel (cPanel/WHM, Plesk, etc....)

I use them as well as https://www.wholesaleinternet.net/ for dedicated servers. Been with them for over 6 years now without issue.

[MDawg]

The Liquid Web 8Gb VPS is up and running and everything has been migrated over, which includes multiple vbulletin forums (vb5 and vb4), a WordPress blog, a couple of myBB forums and a couple dozen regular websites which include formmail.php Contact Us forms with ReCaptcha, and multiple sites with both PayPal and cartmanager shopping carts on them.

The issues I had at migration were all so far resolved, and included
-vb4 site did not resolve properly (The site looked all wrong. At the top it said #vbtab_whatsnew# instead of whatever it is supposed to say across there. And then at the upper right, the boxes were there but no text.)
This was solved with a fresh re-install of the 4.2.5 software and re-running the upgrade script.
-WordPress blog was getting an "error establishing database connection" error.
This was solved by making the database password to match the config file.
-I couldn't access any PW protected folders which included my admincp and core/admincp folders for my forums, so I couldn't login to ACP, I would get a "file not found" error when I tried to go to any PW protected folder.
Somehow the old server had the home directories moved to "/home2" which was not needed and the old server had the .htaccess code pointed in the wrong place. Liquid Web updated the new .htaccess code for directories and now am able to access all PW protected folders.

It seems like this new server runs faster than the old Snappy 2000 Hostgator VPS (it should, it has 4X more memory, 4X more cores), but most importantly, so far no database errors.

[MDawg]

I am little hesitant about the "not" fully managed VPS option at hostinger, basically because when I get database errors at least Hostgator helps me somewhat with them since my current Snappy 2000 VPS with them is fully managed.

Looking to go with Liquid Web, their fully managed VPS with cpanel:
https://www.liquidweb.com/products/vps/

• 8 vCPU
• 150 GB SSD Disk Space
• 10 TB Bandwidth
• Linux

$1176. for two years prepaid.

They will transfer everything for me, including the vbulletin databases, and mirror all the WHM so that I have the latest php for the vb5 sites, and a lower php for the vb4 site, free install of SSL on all sites, pretty much the same as Hostgator just more powerful and a lower price albeit introductory. Will probably need to move again in two years when the price jacks up.

I went ahead and paid month by month for my Snappy 2000 hostgator VPS to extend it just one month only beyond the three years I had prepaid, but it will now expire early November 2019, so I am looking to leave Hostgator soon.

Anyone any experience with Liquid Web?

I am going with Liquid Web, for now I paid just for one month $72. for the above 8 Gb VPS plan, and will pay for the full two years $1176. if all goes well.

I signed up for the 8Gb VPS at Liquid Web and am awaiting migration.

If they do everything right at their end as far as Migration, all I should have to do is change the IP address for the private nameservers I use, and perhaps also update the A records and DNS glue in the new Liquid Web WHM:
https://www.liquidweb.com/kb/setting-up-private-nameservers-in-whmcpanel/

also my host server itself has its own name whatever.com that is the hostname even though it's just a blank website that I use to make the world think that's my server, when actually it is just my hostname (server is mod.myforum.com).

Anyway, let's hope this goes smoothly. Nothing ever seems to when it comes to this sort of thing like vbulletin forums. Inevitable issues.

[MDawg]

Also looking at

https://hostiso.com/vps-hosting/

their
500 GB SSD
4 CPU
8 GB
unmetered
VPS, costs $500. per year where you get 2 months free for each year prepaid, but the Liquid Web one seems stronger with 8 vCPU, at just a bit more per year.

[MDawg]

I am little hesitant about the "not" fully managed VPS option at hostinger, basically because when I get database errors at least Hostgator helps me somewhat with them since my current Snappy 2000 VPS with them is fully managed.

Looking to go with Liquid Web, their fully managed VPS with cpanel:
https://www.liquidweb.com/products/vps/

• 8 vCPU
• 150 GB SSD Disk Space
• 10 TB Bandwidth
• Linux

$1176. for two years prepaid.

They will transfer everything for me, including the vbulletin databases, and mirror all the WHM so that I have the latest php for the vb5 sites, and a lower php for the vb4 site, free install of SSL on all sites, pretty much the same as Hostgator just more powerful and a lower price albeit introductory. Will probably need to move again in two years when the price jacks up.

I went ahead and paid month by month for my Snappy 2000 hostgator VPS to extend it just one month only beyond the three years I had prepaid, but it will now expire early November 2019, so I am looking to leave Hostgator soon.

Anyone any experience with Liquid Web?