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    I'm going to be building a new system here soon and I'd like some advice on what parts to get. I'd like a Pentium 4 with Hyper-Threading technology, probably at 3-3.2GHz with an 800MHz FSB, whichever is the best bang for the buck.

    As for the motherboard, I haven't even looked into these recently so I'm not sure of what is good and what isn't. I know I'd like at least 5 PCI slots, 4 DIMM slots, onboard LAN. I don't need onboard video or sound and I don't need RAID either.

    I haven't really kept up with RAM lately either but I'd like a gig of it. I don't know what the latest type of RAM is but I'd like it to be fast and comprobable to the FSB of the processor.

    For sound I was thinking of the SoundBlaster Audigy 2 something (there are different variants out that I'm still looking at) and for video ATI Radeon something. Maybe the 9800?

    I'm also looking for recommendations on CD-RW's and DVD burners.

    I'll also be getting either one large hard drive or two mid-size hard drives.

    Can anybody recommend a place to get a case? I don't like the one I have now. 3-5 5 1/4" bays and at least 1 3 1/2" bay.

    I've been researching some of the parts for a while and looking at different places to buy them. I've been to mysimon.com comparing prices as well as pricewatch looking at the general costs of things. I haven't looked anywhere specific as of yet for anything. Yes, this is going to be a nice system when I get through building it and I'm not overly worried about the budget. That doesn't mean I don't have a budget but I do want nice hardware. I'd appreciate recommendations from anyone who cares to give them. If you know of a good place that sells things at a reasonable price then let me know as well, if you don't mind. Thanks!

  • #2
    Originally posted by Radon3k
    I'm going to be building a new system here soon and I'd like some advice on what parts to get. I'd like a Pentium 4 with Hyper-Threading technology, probably at 3-3.2GHz with an 800MHz FSB, whichever is the best bang for the buck.

    As for the motherboard, I haven't even looked into these recently so I'm not sure of what is good and what isn't. I know I'd like at least 5 PCI slots, 4 DIMM slots, onboard LAN. I don't need onboard video or sound and I don't need RAID either.

    I haven't really kept up with RAM lately either but I'd like a gig of it. I don't know what the latest type of RAM is but I'd like it to be fast and comprobable to the FSB of the processor.

    I just threw together a P4 3Ghz/2Gig DDR/Asus 800MHZ/ATI AIW 9700pro machine and compiled a linux 2.6.1 kernel on a slackware distro. The hyperthreading/himem/video/audio settings need configured, but it's one fantastic workstation. Powerful and highly configurable.

    For your motherboard I would recommend the Asus P4C800-E Deluxe for the P4. It's rock solid stable, fast, and provides all the bells and whistles.

    Any of the ATI pro cards are fine. ATI proprietary Linux drivers are a bit to work with, but this card pulls some decent frame rate in Linux.

    For a burner I recommend a cheapo LiteOn.
    For the case I recommend Antec in any flavor.
    For DVD's I recommend pioneer.
    For DDR Ram I recommend Mushkin HSDDR. http://www.mushkin.com
    For Hard Disks I recommend Seagate. ( Or a good drive with 8M cache)
    And quite frankly this audio chip on the new asus board is quite fascinating. I just plugged up
    the klipsch sound system to it and love it.

    http://www.pricewatch.com

    Somthing to look at anyhow... Congrats on your new build.
    Last edited by Hooper; Fri 30 Jan '04, 5:27am.

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    • #3
      Thanks, Hooper, for the information. For the RAM, I'm not sure what the newest and best out there is. I see you mentioned "HSDDR" which I haven't heard of until now so I'll look into it. I forgot to mention that I'm also getting a new monitor (I have a 15" LCD now but I want something that gives me better resolution than 1024x768).

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      • #4
        I would always go with two hdd's if you can get them. Two hdd's allow you to do tons more stuff then one, for example I moved my paging file in xp to a second hd to increase preformance, and lets not forget backup.

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        • #5
          Keep in mind that BTX cases and motherboards are on the horrizon. The first ones are supposed to be out sometime this year. I am gonna wait for this standard to hit the market before building another system.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Radon3k
            Thanks, Hooper, for the information. For the RAM, I'm not sure what the newest and best out there is. I see you mentioned "HSDDR" which I haven't heard of until now so I'll look into it.
            HSDDR is just High Speed DDR. These chips are hand picked and tested for tolerance level specs. Top of the line and super for overclocking or just plain stability. The two chips they send will be premium.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Radon3k
              Thanks, Hooper, for the information. (I have a 15" LCD now but I want something that gives me better resolution than 1024x768).

              Samsung.

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              • #8
                Any place I can read more on BTX? Another thing I hadn't heard of until now. Thanks, Hooper, for the information on the RAM and the recommendation on Samsung.

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                • #9
                  omg btx

                  this too

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                  • #10
                    Much of what BTX will offer is already in place in the XPC SFF models. I just built one last week and I can say it is so quite you don't even know its running.
                    It has the same cooling that the new BTX will have. A fan in the back of the case that blows air through the heatsink which is enclosed like on the BTX.
                    ATX won't go away so you don't have to worry about getting addons in the future. AT is still around, just not a prevalent.
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                    • #11
                      I'm not sure what XPC SFF models are. If possible, I'd like to make the system as quiet as possible and as cool as possible when I build it so if I can make it like the BTX that would be good. Thanks for the help so far everyone.

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                      • #12
                        The picoBTX case looks like it will have the same form as a video recorder

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                        • #13
                          Here you go.

                          http://www.shuttle.com/hq/

                          I've got this one.

                          http://www.shuttle.com/hq/product/ba...lt.asp?B_id=23
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Radon3k
                            I'm not sure what XPC SFF models are. If possible, I'd like to make the system as quiet as possible and as cool as possible when I build it so if I can make it like the BTX that would be good. Thanks for the help so far everyone.
                            All the cooling and quiet combination is garbage. If you want a cool system, then make sure you have a dual fan intake on the power supply and a 120mm intake on the front of the case. That is why I recommended the Antec cases. They have snap in 120mm fan clips on the front and rear of the cases. Make sure the front 120mm fan pulls in, make sure the 120mm on the rear pulls out. That is the best fan cooling you are going to have as the air needs to pass from the front of the case and out the rear as it is designed to do.

                            Hard disks need air. Especially the newer 7200rpm and up. They get extremely hot. The 120mm fans keep them cool by being placed directly in front of the drives. Again, antec.

                            120mm fans are not quiet. Panaflow is designed to cool, not be quiet. There are quiet fans, but they cannot compete with 120mm Panaflow or other name brand 120mm fans.

                            Air circulation is a must. I wouldn't worry about the new BTX etc... unless you just want one. ATX isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It will be here for many years to come. Focus on stability with a good mainboard and ram. Then add fast disks with an 8M cache or a scsi sub system. The rest is just tinkering with new toys and technology (nothing wrong with that either).

                            On a side note, I have a small network setup. I have a few machines lined up in a row, all Antec with the same 120mm fans. 2 per case. It's not that loud. Temperatures stay cool. Don't short yourself on cooling for a quiet computer. Heat is the reason for instability and hardware failure. That will not change anytime soon.
                            Last edited by Hooper; Sun 1 Feb '04, 2:30am.

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                            • #15
                              Hey Hooper

                              Since you are the expert on cooling, do you think this is a sufficent case to keep an AMD Athlon XP/ AMD 64 / P4 System cool? How about hard drives?
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