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    In order to try and combat our massive spam problem in our company (about 35,000 spam a day between all of our accounts), I want to remove our email addresses from our site and replace them with a form they can fill out for correspondence.

    The only problem is most of the email mailto forms I can find have the email address embedded on the HTML page and can still be caught if something searches for it. Does anyone know of any forms I can use that do not have the email address on the html page itself, but perhaps somewhere in the script on the server?

  • #2
    If you use a PHP/ASP/PERL script to power your mail form, then the email address will never be visible.

    You can check out this site for a tutorial on how to do it: http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/feedbackphp.shtml
    :)

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    • #3
      http://www.email-form.com/online-demo.html
      Seems like a pretty nice program. You can probably find hundreds of "mail forms" at Hotscripts.com too, most would be for free, but this one stood out... if you don't need all the advanced features, you'd be better off just choosing something from here:
      http://www.hotscripts.com/cgi-bin/se...l+form&catid=2
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      • #4
        This is a useful script that displays a link to your e-mail address but stops spam engines from grabbing your e-mail address for spammage use. It is useful if you do not want to have a form.

        Code:
           <script type="text/javascript">
        user = "username";
        site = "websitename";
        document.write('<a href=\"mailto:' + user + '@' + site + '?subject=Your site' + '\">');
        document.write('Webmaster' + '</a>');
        </script>
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        • #5
          Wow, thank you!!! This is exactly what I've been looking for -- these options are great

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          • #6
            You could also modify the vB3 Contact Us form (click on 'Contact Us' below).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Freddie
              You could also modify the vB3 Contact Us form (click on 'Contact Us' below).
              Actually, this isn't for my Vb -- it's for my general sites

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              • #8
                Lacrosse Boy's suggestion seems to be the best without the use of PHP or other complex languages

                Satan

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                • #9
                  If you still want to show the address itself, use an image--which spambots can't read.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lacrosse Boy
                    This is a useful script that displays a link to your e-mail address but stops spam engines from grabbing your e-mail address for spammage use. It is useful if you do not want to have a form.

                    Code:
                       <script type="text/javascript">
                    user = "username";
                    site = "websitename";
                    document.write('<a href=\"mailto:' + user + '@' + site + '?subject=Your site' + '\">');
                    document.write('Webmaster' + '</a>');
                    </script>
                    The problem you might have with that, though, is that it won't work for people with JavaScript off.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Me2Be
                      In order to try and combat our massive spam problem in our company (about 35,000 spam a day between all of our accounts), I want to remove our email addresses from our site and replace them with a form they can fill out for correspondence.

                      The only problem is most of the email mailto forms I can find have the email address embedded on the HTML page and can still be caught if something searches for it. Does anyone know of any forms I can use that do not have the email address on the html page itself, but perhaps somewhere in the script on the server?
                      It does suck when you get lots of spam like that. Youll never be able to remove your emails from the listings anymore, though. Theres a list out there now with your companies email addresses, though you can stop it from getting increased with email harvesters.

                      Have you tried using spam filters?

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                      • #12
                        First, save the spam emails. Second, (you don't have to but it will get you off the spam lists) change your email addresses (preferably the domain). Then encode all email addresses viewable via the internet with this:

                        http://www.wbwip.com/wbw/emailencoder.html

                        Next if you run Apache, put this in an .htaccess in the public root (or above it if Apache will see it):

                        RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} (html|php)?$
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EmailSiphon [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EmailWolf [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ExtractorPro [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla.*NEWT [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Crescent [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^CherryPicker [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^[Ww]eb[Bb]andit [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WebEMailExtrac.* [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^NICErsPRO [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Telesoft [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Zeus.*Webster [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Microsoft.URL [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Mozilla/3.Mozilla/2.01 [OR]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EmailCollector
                        RewriteRule ^.*$ /spam.html [R]
                        Setup a spam program on the server like Spam Assassin. Then install Spamunition (upserve.com, a little buggy but it works) on each of the PCs in your company. Finally, train Spamunition with the spam you saved (don't delete it after training it since you will need it to retrain it in the future if needbe).

                        Now you should have virtually an exact copy of PokemonFanUniverse.com's antispam defense system. ^_^

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                        • #13
                          Or you could just use a simple HTML hash (for example):
                          PHP Code:
                          <a href="mailto:me@privacy.net?Subject=Hello">&#84;est</a> 
                          For example. I've been using this since 1998 on my pages on my personal site, and not once has it been "lifted" by a spambot. The only "spam" i ever got on the address I use, was due to a dictionary attack, and I never received another spam again. And its a fairly "easily" spammable type email address.
                          Last edited by WizyWyg; Thu 31st Jul '03, 8:36pm.
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                          • #14
                            hehe, yeah , it can muck up some important things sometimes

                            edit: hmm odd, I thought I was replying to somene when i wrote this,
                            but also wanted to add that I currently use this method on my company's website, since we had to change our support email address due the amt of spam were getting; we haven't received one spam message yet and its been up with the new email address since late June.

                            Record of getting spam to an Email address I own:

                            40 minutes after using it unmunged in a newsgroup.
                            Last edited by WizyWyg; Thu 31st Jul '03, 8:40pm.
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                            • #15
                              *cough* /me kicks the vbCode parser
                              :)

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