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    filburt1
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  • filburt1
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    It tends to need more powerful hardware and not as many people know JSP versus PHP, at least in setting up and maintaining it.

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  • kineda
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    Originally posted by filburt1
    It's server-side Java, not client-side.

    Yes, PHP/MySQL would probably run faster on the same set of hardware.
    Have any of you actually tried the software before? Anything that stands out in particular compared to vB?

    Filburt - Why is it more expensive to maintain?

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  • filburt1
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
    Well since it is Java based, you would be restricting to those people who Java installed on their machines. This leaves out most users with Windows XP. Even if they have WIndows, you have to make sure it the Sun runtime and not the Windows Java Virtual Machine... Seems like a hassle when other systems work in any browser without plugins at a lower total cost of ownership.
    It's server-side Java, not client-side.

    Yes, PHP/MySQL would probably run faster on the same set of hardware.

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  • kineda
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    So the drawback that it needs to run on a Java enabled server really doesn't make a difference to clients.

    My next question then would be - Is it more difficult to maintain a Java Application server than a MySQL server? Running MySQL for the past two years has been pretty much a piece of cake. No problems with setup or backup maintence.

    Would the PHP/MySQL combo run faster than the JAVA/JSP combo?

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  • Sheddtech
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    Hi!
    It looks like it is a JSP application, so no - it would not require Java on your clients computers - you just need a Java application server on your HTTP server.

    Hope this helps.

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  • kineda
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
    Well since it is Java based, you would be restricting to those people who Java installed on their machines. This leaves out most users with Windows XP. Even if they have WIndows, you have to make sure it the Sun runtime and not the Windows Java Virtual Machine... Seems like a hassle when other systems work in any browser without plugins at a lower total cost of ownership.
    I didn't realize that it requires Java to run? Doesn't the Java-based code just mean that it can be run on any kind of server setup? The actual pages itself are served in JSP correct?

    Quoting from Jive's site:
    "The Jive Forums 3 default skin requires a modern web browser for optimal usage. At a minimum, clients should use Internet Explorer 5.x or better, Mozilla 1.x or better, Netscape 6.x or better, or Opera 5.x or better. "

    Thanks for the input. I just need to understand the drawbacks clearly, so that I can explain it to the others.

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  • Wayne Luke
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  • Wayne Luke
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    Well since it is Java based, you would be restricting to those people who Java installed on their machines. This leaves out most users with Windows XP. Even if they have WIndows, you have to make sure it the Sun runtime and not the Windows Java Virtual Machine... Seems like a hassle when other systems work in any browser without plugins at a lower total cost of ownership.

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  • filburt1
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    Jive is powered by JSP, which is in general more expensive to maintain than PHP. The tools are free, but it's just a b**** to use them unless you enjoy constantly editing XML files to get your pages to load.

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  • kineda
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    Originally posted by phill2003
    no idea wouldnt it be better going to their community site and asking this???
    I'd actually like to hear it from my fellow vBulletin owners. I tried searching for comparisons on Jive, but it seems they delete anything with the word vBulletin in it. Either that, or no one talks about vbulletin.

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  • phill2003
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    no idea wouldnt it be better going to their community site and asking this???

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  • kineda
    started a topic Anyone heard of Jive?

    Anyone heard of Jive?

    We're about to implement forums for an online community of teachers.

    I've personally used vBulletin for 2 years now, and it's the best forum software I can think of(I used ubb for 2 years before vb).

    Management is considering Jive software(www.jivesoftware.com). It's based on Java and not PHP.

    Can anyone tell me any experience they've had with this software? Is it template driven, how are the admin options, etc? Speed of the forums, scalability? I need all the +'s/-'s so that I can convince them that vb is the best solution their is for forum software.

    One thing Jive seems to have that vBulletin does though, is an "instant messaging" application. Has anyone use this either?
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