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  • John
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    Yeah, I don't agree with the way some people have used the DMCA, but for us 'small' software developers, it is an absolute God-send.

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  • NetherChris
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    One example lately was an email we got from Universal (don't want to post it for fear) saying that we had a FTP site going that had illegal material... this was impossible because 1. we don't give out anon FTP 2. we'd catch the bandwidth and 3. well, we'd have noticed since we're a small company.. turned out they had called us on a site that was spoofing gigantic text files instead of the actual illegal programs. Didn't even take the time to verify it either... of course though, I know Jelsoft would never do such a thing..

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  • John
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    Originally posted by NetherChris
    DMCA... ugh... dont even get me started. I work for a webhost and we get more emails from Universal Studios than their new director.

    They want us to shut down sites with links to sites that might have links to sites that are linked to sites that might, just might, have illegal content on them. They have been after us not only on our end, but on the end of AboveNet that provides our upstream and downstream bandwidth. Normally I wouldn't mind so much, and we comply fully and immediately, but there is no need for the action that they take most of the time. Using DMCA against anybody is just a low blow.
    We only use it when the infringing material is actually on the host's servers. We don't use it on links to links to links, otherwise google would have been done a long time ago

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  • NetherChris
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    Originally posted by John
    With the DMCA the ISP is required to shut down the site if the user is shown to be running illegal software or distributing software illegally.
    DMCA... ugh... dont even get me started. I work for a webhost and we get more emails from Universal Studios than their new director.

    They want us to shut down sites with links to sites that might have links to sites that are linked to sites that might, just might, have illegal content on them. They have been after us not only on our end, but on the end of AboveNet that provides our upstream and downstream bandwidth. Normally I wouldn't mind so much, and we comply fully and immediately, but there is no need for the action that they take most of the time. Using DMCA against anybody is just a low blow.

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  • DirectPixel
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    Originally posted by filburt1
    Jelsoft doesn't harm the civilians.
    riiight...

    That's not including cream pies, is it?

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  • filburt1
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    Jelsoft doesn't harm the civilians.

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  • John
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    Nope, no innocent sites have been shut down, just those without licenses or those distributing pirated software.

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  • ukdiver
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    Originally posted by eiSecure
    Hey, a nuke has a very wide area of damage...
    Ah, collaterall (sp?) damage, the loss of many innocent sites.

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  • DirectPixel
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    Originally posted by filburt1
    Several thousand!?
    Hey, a nuke has a very wide area of damage...

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  • filburt1
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    Several thousand!?

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  • John
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    Go talk to the guys at www.nukepirates.com - they know what they're talking about and they bring very good results! They have shut down several thousand sites for us, people without licenses and people distributing pirated software.

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  • Skeptical
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    Originally posted by eiSecure
    Pretty hard to prove you own the rights to the script when you don't have a single source file for the graphics, etc.
    What if it's just a script or words that were stolen? Then how or why does a host have be the judge?

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  • ccd1
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    Originally posted by Erwin
    A good lawyer will be able to get the results you want.

    That's also what your opponent thinks and has.

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  • Erwin
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    Originally posted by WizyWyg
    Why haven't you gotten a lawyer on this already?
    Exactly. Especially for a big company. Intellectual property theft can mean a large settlement and most companies have in-house legal departments which will advise the company to stop doing it. A good lawyer will be able to get the results you want.

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  • WizyWyg
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    Originally posted by AWS
    From experience when you are dealing with a broadband ISP it is next to impossible to get them to shutdown a customer for distributing copyright software.
    I have been trying to get one of the biggest broadband ISP which is also a Telco to shutdown or remove a copy of one of my companies products. This has been ongoing for 2 years now.
    Telco explains it all.

    If they aren't going to do about any of the abuse that originates from their own servers (spammers, scammers, password stealers) then as a company ISP they are no better than the common criminal.

    Why haven't you gotten a lawyer on this already? It took my lawyer to send their CEO a cease and desist letter to get them to boot off a career spammer from their network that was mail bombing my domain and mail servers for porn, weight loss, viagra and such. I dont think they appreciated the $5,000,000 price tag I was going to ask for for ever 5 spam emails that originated off their network either.

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