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  • Arkham
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    Originally posted by rawnet
    It may look similar to the Playboy bunny logo I suppose, but it's not the same.
    Well, as long as you think it's different enough, Playboy will probably overlook it.


    Who removed the Jelsoft copyright? Is there something I'm missing?
    Never mind, it was a joke. Read: "Well, you can piss Playboy off, but don't dare cross Jelsoft."

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  • rawnet
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    It may look similar to the Playboy bunny logo I suppose, but it's not the same.

    Who removed the Jelsoft copyright? Is there something I'm missing?

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  • Arkham
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    Re: Bit NEgative!!

    Originally posted by rawnet
    Arkham,

    You're bit of a grumpy bugger aren't you!!

    Did you look at the site properly before making such a judgement? It is pyriamid/multi-level-marketing, yes. Does this make it bad?

    Oh this is rich.

    Of course I examined it.

    You'd think that people supposedly into "Marketing" would be aware of the negative connotations of using the word "pyramid" in their product name.


    Digitalwombat is a personal site. In what way are you affiliated with negative grumpy sods?
    HA! Grumpy! Not as grumpy as Playboy - they're extremely militant about their trademarks and copyrighted material. As I said, I found it funny that you got away with it, since most people don't stand a chance against that corporation.

    Slipped under the radar, I guess.

    It's not as if you omitted the Jelsoft copyright on your forum, of course. That would be waaaaay out of line.

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  • Arkham
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    Re: Re: Re: The answer to subscription sites??

    Originally posted by Prince



    Are you the internet police?

    Trademark and copyright issues are fairly serious matters on the net. I found it funny that someone got away with using Playboy's logo, since they're rabidly protective of their trademarks.

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  • chrispadfield
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    If I have anything to do with this, and I will certainly be making a system if nothing "official" per se is made then worldpay will definitely be on the list as that is who I am using now.

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  • rawnet
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    Mr Happy

    That's fantastic news.

    This is the way we're all moving, and even if it's at extra cost, I believe many hundreds of us would be willing to go for it.

    As you say, the development team are webmasters, so I'm sure you've thought of most things.

    My main wish would be to have different styles and/or templates available to different user groups - even if this option is set to on/off in config.php to save queries - as that would then give us the most freedom to change the forums for our subscribers.

    Oh - and Paypal/Worldpay (hey, Jelsoft is UK-based!!) integration would be simply superb. Former is more universally important, but please allow for the latter in the construction of such a system.

    This is fantastic news. Are the ability to use drop-down (select boxes) for custom fields still going into vb3?

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  • Martin
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    we really do hope to have a subscription package in vB 3, either as an add-on or as part of the core code. we are looking at different ways to implement it, so it might not make it out with the initial release, but we do understand that ad revenue is falling and a solution is needed. We are webmasters ourselves, as well as HMFIC's of the boards here, so we do understand the need

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  • jeffct
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    Originally posted by chrispadfield
    Personally I have never really heard a valid difference between the two, it is just MLM schemes generally nothing ever gets sold bar membership to the scheme
    If it's a legitimate MLM the whole concept should be to distribute the products and/or recruit people to distribute for you. MLM companies like Herbalife generate around $1 billion revenue per year this way.
    Last edited by jeffct; Thu 14 Feb '02, 12:40pm.

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  • Prince
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    Re: Re: The answer to subscription sites??

    Originally posted by Arkham

    BTW, the digital wombat/Playboy Bunny logo on your website: How are you affiliated with Playboy?

    Are you the internet police?

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  • chrispadfield
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    Personally I have never really heard a valid difference between the two, it is just MLM schemes generally nothing ever gets sold bar membership to the scheme whereas pyramid schemes only work if something is sold. the theory is still the same and on this case it would really be more MLM because you have to pay to join the scheme (ie subscribe) instead of pyramid where you could sell subscriptions without actually subscribing yourself.

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  • jeffct
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    There is a difference between MLM and Pyramid schemes - the former is legitimate and legal, the latter is not.

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  • rawnet
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    A pyramid system is not 1-2 level like this - it usually involves recruiting others below you, and you get a cut of their percentage, etc.

    This puts the site owner at top, and effectively makes every member an affiliate automatically.

    That's it - the relationships goes no deeper than that, but this isn't made clear unless it's read properly and understoof - it can be a pyramid, as their script has that power, but I would only see one level deep relationship.

    The reason for having members as affiliates automatically is to encourage them to become members - I feel they are more likely to sign up for a monthly, recurring billing if they feel that they can refer x members to effectively get free membership, and everyone then benefits.

    Anyway, opinion is obviously rather divided!!

    Not an option for me as they refuse to support the Windoze platform.

    Chris's script for vb3 sounds like it will be a winner though!!
    Last edited by rawnet; Thu 14 Feb '02, 11:34am.

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  • Broncos
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    Have you seen any pure affiliate programs you'd recommend? Just a plain x% per sale and it tracks the stats etc.

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  • chrispadfield
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    Re: Re: Bit NEgative!!

    Originally posted by smachol
    Actually yes, IMHO.
    all it is is an affiliate program tagged together with a subcsription system. what i can't understand is why they merged the two together. If they were seperated there would be no problem but they way it is presented is just looks like MLM when in fact it istn' really.

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  • Steve Machol
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    Re: Bit NEgative!!

    Originally posted by rawnet
    It is pyriamid/multi-level-marketing, yes. Does this make it bad?
    Actually yes, IMHO.

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