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  • #16
    If there clever they use a proxy server and IP banning won't work. Nor will placing a cookie will, either. Cookies are to easily deleted. You cannot ban someone for good.

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    • #17
      Thats what I was thinking.. A lot of teens who do stuff like that are to stupid to know how to clear their cookies anyways; if when a banned user logged on it gave them a "nono" cookie then no matter what it would not let them do anything.. Not only that make it act like it's letting them register but once they submit never email them the confirm and stuff.. Real agrivating .. I know a lot of smart people could get by it but it would help..

      Also on many computers you can do a trace and get a mac address, and sometimes a unique computer name.. If you could rig the server up to do that it would be nice.. I have blackice and it gives me mac addresses of many scanners. I know mac addresses are unique for every device.. Just some thoughts
      Jimmy

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      • #18
        Adding the cookie feature couldn't hurt anything, I think it is a valid idea (along with keeping the ip/hostname banning)

        More icing on the cake, as they say!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Maiji
          If there clever they use a proxy server and IP banning won't work. Nor will placing a cookie will, either. Cookies are to easily deleted. You cannot ban someone for good.
          Uhh, isn't that what I just said?

          "It's absolutely impossible to have true banning. You have dynamic IP's and people with multiple email addresses. You can contact their host though and tell them about the problem. It helps."


          -Vic

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Redmak
            Don't think that's possible since they pick a new name, email address and can get a new ip.

            So how do you know it's the same user?
            Just like in real life, people on a board have certain personalities. You realize that as you go along as an admin or mod--you know it's this person, and not another one. He can change his name, go to another comp, have another e-mail, but his style of replying is still unique. You can take a look at this board and see how each person who replies has his way and even temperement in replying.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JWB
              when a banned user logged on it gave them a "nono" cookie then no matter what it would not let them do anything.. Not only that make it act like it's letting them register but once they submit never email them the confirm and stuff.. Real agrivating
              Oh yes! I love that idea!! They are banned but they don't know it. Maybe you can send them the confirm email but when they click to activate their account you can just display the

              "There has been a slight problem with the database" screen, so they think the forum is broken and go away!
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mark Hewitt


                Oh yes! I love that idea!! They are banned but they don't know it. Maybe you can send them the confirm email but when they click to activate their account you can just display the

                "There has been a slight problem with the database" screen, so they think the forum is broken and go away!
                This is exactly what I suggested to the vB team 6+ months ago, calling it the "evil cookie".

                Also another thing about proxies. They often will pass back an env. variable called x_forward_for (spelling?). You can have vB check that variable. If it amounts to an IP you already banned then vB should automatically reject the registration.
                Well, there it is.
                - Keeper of the Grove

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                • #23
                  I don't know guys, it's just that some of these users are total crackheads, and I have their email addresses (real ones for some) I could really mess up their accounts by the usual stuff but it's best to ignore these pests and move on.

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                  • #24
                    It's not just a matter of ignoring. As any large board owner will tell you.

                    I've got one person (I know his home address and I've told the police but nothing) who was and is consistently harrasing a female moderator on my board and posts porn pictures to our members pretending to work for our site
                    Motorsport Forums

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                    • #25
                      Well what we've done is that we give access to posting images to users with a certain # of posts only. That filters out the morons from the members who want to have fun usually.

                      I wonder how big onlinecommunities like Yahoo, MSN handle such losers? Their grps are full of spams, etc.

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                      • #26
                        Someone posted this idea a while back:

                        Ban their Modem's MAC address. Whammo..they have to buy a new network card/modem to get back on. Even though a firewall would prevent this, its still an EXCELLENT solution if they don't have a firewall. I think it should be implemented, as well as the cookie issue. You ban them enough ways at once and they'll have too much of a problem getting unbanned, and will (hopefully) just give up.
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                        • #27
                          But how can you detect someones MAC address??
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                          • #28
                            One interesting thing is the fricking AOL users. It seems that AOL from Canada or USA point to Virginia only if we do a traceroute to validate location (traceroute usually gives us a fair idea if the person is really located where he/she is saying).

                            Is there any way to traceroute AOL users properly?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mark Hewitt
                              But how can you detect someones MAC address??
                              NetBIOS.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DarkReaper


                                NetBIOS.
                                How are you going to get at it? they don't traverse further than their local subnets.
                                Well, there it is.
                                - Keeper of the Grove

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