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  • #91
    I've never had any trouble getting Wi-Fi to work when I use Ubuntu on stock Dell hardware.
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    • #92
      Still in doubt, I look at the HP Envy 13 again, which looks great, but it's expensive.

      The MacBooks are also great, but I don't like OSX that much, it looks like a kids operating system, all those animated icons and stuff, I really don't need that, and my main problem would be all those Windows only programs that I have to use, which I can't run on OSX, I know it can run Windows, but how well does that work for a computer that is not made for it?

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      • #93
        You can get programs (Paralell Desktops) that run windows and windows programs inside mac, and it works great. Used it once before, and if i ever got a mac, that would be first thing i would gladly shell out cash for.

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        • #94
          Yeah, I know, but would running windows on a macbook perform as well as a pc laptop with similar specs ?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by wii View Post
            Yeah, I know, but would running windows on a macbook perform as well as a pc laptop with similar specs ?
            When using Boot Camp: yes.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by wii View Post
              Still in doubt, I look at the HP Envy 13 again, which looks great, but it's expensive.

              The MacBooks are also great, but I don't like OSX that much, it looks like a kids operating system, all those animated icons and stuff, I really don't need that, and my main problem would be all those Windows only programs that I have to use, which I can't run on OSX, I know it can run Windows, but how well does that work for a computer that is not made for it?
              If you're bothered by graphics, then you might as well just use MS-DOS or some other CLI interface, because all OS are moving towards "animated icons and stuff."

              Also, a Macintosh is built for Windows. No matter what Apple tells you, a Mac is just a pretty chassis over the same, generic Intel hardware you find in any Dell, HP or Compaq. Except it costs more.
              Originally posted by wii View Post
              Yeah, I know, but would running windows on a macbook perform as well as a pc laptop with similar specs ?
              Of course, because there is no difference between the two. At all. Macs use Intel parts. So do Dells and HPs and Compaqs and eMachines, etc. Macs use the same graphics cards and wireless cards, etc. A Mac and a Dell with exactly the same specs and hardware will run Windows exactly the same.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Quillz View Post
                If you're bothered by graphics, then you might as well just use MS-DOS or some other CLI interface, because all OS are moving towards "animated icons and stuff."

                Also, a Macintosh is built for Windows. No matter what Apple tells you, a Mac is just a pretty chassis over the same, generic Intel hardware you find in any Dell, HP or Compaq. Except it costs more.

                Of course, because there is no difference between the two. At all. Macs use Intel parts. So do Dells and HPs and Compaqs and eMachines, etc. Macs use the same graphics cards and wireless cards, etc. A Mac and a Dell with exactly the same specs and hardware will run Windows exactly the same.
                They come from the same pool of parts, but are not necessarily the same.

                Dollar for dollar you will get a better laptop with a PC.

                Look at the ASUS laptops. They are apparently the most reliable from a recent Toms Hardware article.
                Hmmm. Cheese.

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                • #98
                  Macs are for more for designers

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by relou View Post
                    Macs are for more for designers
                    Why.

                    Give one explanation why.

                    Photoshop, illustrator .... ect... it's all software. That is what we use. The OS has nothing to do with it.

                    If I could use those on Ubuntu I wouldn't use OSX or Windows.
                    Hmmm. Cheese.

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                    • Originally posted by relou View Post
                      Macs are for more for designers
                      Eh.. macs are for everyone now, you can even get them for very affordable prices

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                      • Originally posted by relou View Post
                        Macs are for more for designers
                        Not exclusively, no. Anyone can use them.

                        Not to mention that all the same "designing" software is available on Windows, too.
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                        • If I would get another Mac now, I'd go for the 27-inch Quad-Core iMac. It costs $1999, but that's with a 2560 x 1440 27 inch screen. It's probably the most cost efficient Mac that ever has been manufactured.


                          Originally posted by wii View Post
                          But how well does Windows run on Macs, is it totally comparable to a similar Windows PC, or are there performance differences? I read somewhere that the drivers for Macs are not the best.
                          I don't know if there are any tests for Windows 7, but here's a thread I came across comparing how Vista runs on Macs compared with how Vista runs on other PCs:
                          http://www.informationweek.com/news/...leID=207400285
                          Last edited by fPower; Sun 6th Dec '09, 2:17am.

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                          • Apparently Windows 7 is not officially supported.

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                            • Originally posted by Floris View Post
                              Don't listen to Steve and the other Windows boiz

                              It's Mac OSX or bust!
                              Every time I turn on the TV I see that MAC guy slamming Windows, never once have I seen an ad that actually promotes their product and I know nothing about it because all they do is put down Windows. Reading through this thread I am learning way more than I would ever from a MAC ad, in fact I am certain if they weren't such a turn off I would've bought the mini by now.

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                              • Originally posted by wii View Post
                                Apparently Windows 7 is not officially supported.
                                Whether it's officially supported or not, Windows 7 works just fine on Boot Camp using the 3.0 drivers. I've had no issues whatsoever. Virtually anything that works with Vista will work with 7, since they share the same 6.x kernel.
                                Originally posted by ericgtr View Post
                                Every time I turn on the TV I see that MAC guy slamming Windows, never once have I seen an ad that actually promotes their product and I know nothing about it because all they do is put down Windows. Reading through this thread I am learning way more than I would ever from a MAC ad, in fact I am certain if they weren't such a turn off I would've bought the mini by now.
                                It's because Apple is the immature loser who can't do anything except bash the competition, like Pepsi used to do for years and years against Coca-Cola.
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