im just not impressed at all....

[anthonyparsons]

I must agree with Zach though on how far the style has come in just the last few days. I looked earlier in the week, and it sucked... now, it is looking so much more pleasing on my eyes. Slowly but surely it is coming together quite well. The subtle colour changes, rounding corners here and there, a little space between things and it is really starting to look much sharper than when released.

[cellarius]

doesnt matter if its beta. we have seen in several versions of vb beta that not much changes along the road to the gold release...this is what they are going to stick with. guarantee.

So you have seen several versions of the beta. Which is quite astonishing, seeing this forum still runs beta 1.

[Shamil.]

What I think he means is several revisions of Beta 1.

[Abomination]

I'll see what I can do about getting it posted to the bug tracker But remember that changes wont happen overnight here on the live forums.

You probably mean the internal beta testers bug tracker, but here is a link to the one we can access:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/proje...?issueid=30824

I'm most concerned in the long term. These forums are a major selling point when people consider buy vB. If a large amount of the user base finds them difficult to use then that may affect their decision regarding what to buy, which of course affects sales figures.


(hey if Ray can out spin on things, I can try too. LOL....)

[Webmist]

First impressions are everything. It might be a beta, but people see the style, form their opinions and then rarely change them.

I think everyone was expecting to see Mickey Mouse and when Goofy showed up it was a load of disappointment. From everything that has been said you wanted something awesome and when you don't see it, it's a let down. To point a fact out most of us haven't 'seen' it. We've only been seeing what members see. I'm waiting to see the innerds before I start in. Because that's gonna tell me if my money was well spent or not.

p/s the first thing I'll be doing is re-skinning as well. To me the theme is dull and has no pizazz to it.

[carntheroos4eva]

I think everyone was expecting to see Mickey Mouse and when Goofy showed up it was a load of disappointment. From everything that has been said you wanted something awesome and when you don't see it, it's a let down. To point a fact out most of us haven't 'seen' it. We've only been seeing what members see. I'm waiting to see the innerds before I start in. Because that's gonna tell me if my money was well spent or not.

p/s the first thing I'll be doing is re-skinning as well. To me the theme is dull and has no pizazz to it.

Which is a good thing to do anyway. You mightn't like the colours of the skin and the fonts that go with it. It gives you room to move when you get the download. I will be changing the colours dramatically.

[the geek]

I think everyone was expecting to see Mickey Mouse and when Goofy showed up it was a load of disappointment.

This just made my morning. Would have repped, but oddly it doesn't seem to work on ie8.

I like that UI changes have been fairly steady since the outburst of member feedback, however IMO its still wallpapering over Grand Canyon sized cracks.

The UI is still mega cluttered (worse than last week). So much could (and should) be done to streamline and simplify. I'm no UI guy so please take my suggestions with a pinch of salt:

• Hide reply/reply with quote/etc... as well as the post number, rep and report icons unless you hover over a post? Kind of how facebook shows their 'remove' link? Just use a div to 'float' over the text. This can remove repeated and redundant options as well as some white space.
• Take all the thread tools and similar drop down menus and stick them into 1 menu.
• Take most of the redundant userinfo on each post and stick it in their popup menu (i.e. IM icons, etc...). Personally I would prefer MOST userinfo to go in there, but I can easily see an argument for keeping a lot of it where it is now. But seriously... Skype and IM icons? On every single one of their posts? Naaaaa.

Here is an idea:

Have a contest to design a skin. Top prize: $1.5k, second place: $1k, third place $500. That is maybe less than a salaried employee costs for 1 month to rework your style and guess what? You get 3 different styles that you can ship vb4 with! And the winning designers get ubur exposure and kudos. In fact, the contest would be a great idea in order to get some serious buzz going and could really inspire some of the customers that aren't feeling the love from this rather bland version.

People shouldn't HAVE to have reskinning as their number 1 priority to roll out vB4. Lets face it, there will be enough to do for most site owners to upgrade without have to reinvent the wheel at the same time.

[jo8jo]

Here is an idea:

Have a contest to design a skin. Top prize: $1.5k, second place: $1k, third place $500. That is maybe less than a salaried employee costs for 1 month to rework your style and guess what? You get 3 different styles that you can ship vb4 with! And the winning designers get ubur exposure and kudos. In fact, the contest would be a great idea in order to get some serious buzz going and could really inspire some of the customers that aren't feeling the love from this rather bland version.

People shouldn't HAVE to have reskinning as their number 1 priority to roll out vB4. Lets face it, there will be enough to do for most site owners to upgrade without have to reinvent the wheel at the same time.

This is a very good idea !!

[BIGMONAY2K]

i think everyone was expecting to see mickey mouse and when goofy showed up it was a load of disappointment..

werd dude

[messengermatt]

Im using Safari and i cant write on the text box without tabbing down from the thread title bit, its rather weird

[Zachery]

Messengermatt please report it as a bug

[Joe Gronlund]

Oh no, beta with bugs! Do you even understand the meaning of beta software?

I see these posts all the time here, from not understanding that colors/shapes can be changed, to not understanding the most basic meaning of words.

Not all beta software actually have full blown bugs. I have seen many, very many RTM / Retail products, that are much less stable then their beta predecessors..

[Floris]

Not all beta software actually have full blown bugs. I have seen many, very many RTM / Retail products, that are much less stable then their beta predecessors..

Stop beta testing for Microsoft .. haha (ZING!)

[DirectPixel]

Stop beta testing for Microsoft .. haha (ZING!)

Hey now... don't hate on Microsoft

[GoTTi]

i rather have a full blown chat client integrated into vb more than anything!

but still, seeing more changes around here and im not getting tickled yet. but ofcourse im keeping my eye on things like us all.