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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jedito


    You make me Laugh!. You're soo naif.
    USA ARMED, FINANCED, AND TRAINED a lot of terrorist to fight against Russians. Also Supporten Albanian guerrillas (to those who BIN LADEN directed) to kill Bosnians
    So, your point now is, that kill russians and bosnias is good, but kill american is bad?. To me is bad to kill anybody.
    But who seeds winds, it harvests storms


    Looks what NATO does in Bosnia



    Argentina underwent 2 terrorist attacks in the 90s, and I not remember much conmosiĆ³n anywhere in the world, but maybe is my bad memory

    The US has on occasion through provisions by NATO provided weapons to balance power in specific regions, this is something every member of NATO has done in the past... That is its purpose, not saying I agree with it but that is a peace through arms thing that you probably do not have the stomach for while you thumb your nose at the US... (kick 'em when their down?) -nice tact...

    So the US isn't very popular with you, yet it is comprised of members that were once of your nation as it is with every nation...

    Fact of the matter is that osama bin laden flushed the terrestrial toilet with the creation of his terrorist network spanning of sixty countries, he has taken lives without descrimination and will continue on a larger scale as he gains more powerful weapons...

    It is evident you have seen this up close, yet your country lacks the balls to do something about it, that is your right, one of the few you have left isn't it?

    osama bin laden should have listened to his father in his teachings in saying "let sleeping dogs lie"

    The US people refuse to give up their rights in yielding to this terrorist, terrorism provides no means of coexistance or reasonable degree of safety to civilian population and the people will not stand for it...

    They have waged a "jihad" or "Holy War" in the name of the Islamic religion for twenty years against "the west", til now it has been ignorable, that no longer remains... the dogs have been awakened and this very well could become a world war...

    Simply depends on the Islamic people condemning bin ladens actions or supporting them, there simply is no nuetral position on this as President Bush did not provide that option, it is the only way to be sure... That is why it is called war...

    Glitch

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    • #62
      Afghanistan = Glassage

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      • #63
        Originally posted by fury
        Afghanistan = Glassage

        Not to say that it won't, but lets hope that it doesn't require that measure to secure this situation... We are trying to kill the cancer, not the bloodline... If it turns out that the bloodline defends the cancer then well... We most probably will not have a choice in the matter...

        Glitch

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        • #64
          Glitch, the United States supports one of the lagest terrorists group in the world : Israel.
          What terrorism means to the United States? Killing civilians? ok this is terrorism but what about those who DEFEND their countries like lebanon's Huzbulla and Hamas. If america still incests on calling these groups terrorists then the USA people are terrorists because they fight against the english in the past to defend their country.

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          • #65
            JB007, I have nothing against people defending their country. But at least do it in the right way.
            If you're gonna fight, ok, no problem, let's have a war. (not that I want war, but you'll get it in a sec)

            For me, and I'm sure others will agree with me, it seems like you don't have the slightest clue what the definition of "terrorism" is.
            So just for you, I attached an image. Just so you can understand the words coming out of your mouth.

            The Huzbulla and Hamas defend their country?
            Alright, good for them, I'd defend my country as well.
            But like I said, at least do it in the proper way.
            You want war? Come and get us.

            But doing what you do, is pure terrorism.
            Chen Avinadav
            Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

            גם אני מאוכזב מסיקור תחרות לתור מוטור של NRG הרשת ע"י מעריב

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            • #66
              JB007,

              You do realize don't you, that the reason bin Laden is so pissed off at the U.S. right now is that we defiled Islamic Holy Soil when we came over to kick uncle Saddam out of your country - at the request of both your leaders and Saudi Arabia. Are you too young to remember that?

              Perhaps we should have not gotten involved when asked, and simply let him expand his beach frontage...

              What's your position on the U.S. involvement then? Is it any more straightforward for you?

              World leaders make these decisions every day, right or wrong, and they are humans just like you and me. They err on the side of what they believe is right; they err on the side of what they believe is balance. The key thing here is they err.

              If you want to go back to the beginning when talking about defending the region from invaders, you have to go back long before the British, the Jews and the Americans. What ever happened to Persia anyway? Why is the Silk Road closed now? Where did those pesky Romans go after all? Wasn't Alexander Great enough? How about the Kahn?

              Let's take back all the foreign influence, money and culture. OK? Ready? You know tend four goats and a camel for your uncle. Happy?

              -t
              Tim Hewitt
              myOstrich Internet - Domain Management & Internet Services
              myOstrich Golf - When it comes to golf, we don't have our heads in the sand.

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              • #67
                How do you justify the mass murder just over something like walking on Islamic Holy Soil. Plus OBL wants to destroy the world's inhabitants doesn't he, I call that evil, not pissed off

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                • #68
                  JB007's Sig,

                  "First post: It's better not to see my first post."


                  ...or your last post either for that matter. We actually lost a few men trying to keep Saddam out of your bathtub. You might consider being grateful. If we hadn't stepped in to help, I'm sure by now he would own the computer you are typing on.

                  theWitt has it more than correct when he wrote....

                  "You do realize don't you, that the reason bin Laden is so pissed off at the U.S. right now is that we defiled Islamic Holy Soil when we came over to kick uncle Saddam out of your country."

                  no doubt about it.
                  Last edited by Hooper; Sun 23rd Sep '01, 7:49am.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JB007
                    what about those who DEFEND their countries like lebanon's Huzbulla and Hamas. If america still incests on calling these groups terrorists then the USA people are terrorists because they fight against the english in the past to defend their country.
                    The US does not blatently target civilian life trying to draw world attention for its cause, you are about to see the type of attention he has commanded. OBL has and will continue if not stopped, war does have casualties, but it is in good faith in any war between two recognized countries to not hit the civilians over political dispute. The people that you mention above have been bickering with the use of small arms over civilian casualties for many years, this is what NATO tries to end with the use of distributing weapons to balance power... If you would like to see american terrorism, take down the US Gov't, seperate and attack its people, you will see terrorism like you've never seen it before (probably without the suicide bit), we were a people content to shoot at ourselves for several years, OBL has given the people of the US a target now... OBL has gained attention with corperate structure and organised crime, if the US doesn't get him, they will... That could be an act of terrorism, but would probably be one of those unsolved crimes as there would not be very much effort put into locating the perp... Everyone wants him dead, I personally would like to see him put to his own justice, stoned to death in the street which is want the Islamic people should have done according to the Koran...

                    Glitch
                    Last edited by Glitch; Sun 23rd Sep '01, 8:57am.

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                    • #70
                      Who said that I'm not greatful for the United States for keeping Saddam out of my country? Of course I'm greatful for the God first for deciding to keep my country free.

                      What I'm trying to say is simple:
                      • The United States does not have a fair policy in the middel east. And because of it's unfair policy, thousands of people were killed in palastain with no one even feeling sad for them.
                      • Ben Ladin and his brain washed network have a totally wrong understanding of the Islamic Holy War or the "Jihad". The Jihad means fighting against who's invading your country without killing civilians. If he declared the Jihad against Israel then it's ok. All the Islamic leaders will support him because he's not doing anything wrong.

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                      • #71
                        Glitch, Huzbulla was not targetting civilians. They were targetting the military bases.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by JB007
                          Ben Ladin and his brain washed network have a totally wrong understanding of the Islamic Holy War or the "Jihad". The Jihad means fighting against who's invading your country without killing civilians. If he declared the Jihad against Israel then it's ok. All the Islamic leaders will support him because he's not doing anything wrong.
                          Of course, blowing up cafes is not wrong, how could I forget.
                          Chen Avinadav
                          Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

                          גם אני מאוכזב מסיקור תחרות לתור מוטור של NRG הרשת ע"י מעריב

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by JB007
                            Glitch, Huzbulla was not targetting civilians. They were targetting the military bases.
                            Since when is Kiryat Shmone a military base?
                            Last time I checked it was a city.
                            Chen Avinadav
                            Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

                            גם אני מאוכזב מסיקור תחרות לתור מוטור של NRG הרשת ע"י מעריב

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                            • #74
                              Oh really? and since when Sabra and Shatela is a military base? The people in these civilian targets were INVADING palastinain/lebanese terretories. So what do you expect them to do? Set and watch the enemy invading their country?

                              but it is in good faith in any war between two recognized countries to not hit the civilians over political dispute
                              The memory of those who died in Japan because of the nuclear weapons is still alive.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by JB007
                                Glitch, Huzbulla was not targetting civilians. They were targetting the military bases.
                                Now explain the WTC... Nice try at evading the point though...

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