Moved to VO, need some help from my vB peeps...

[JimF]

I got a new dedicated server at VenturesOnline a few weeks ago, and have done a ton of configuration modifications, tweaks, and software installations in hopes of getting the same performance out of the new server as I did with my current host FutureQuest.net.

We have a #1 Package w/ 512 MB of RAM (total), and that should be sufficient for the content portion of my site, and the moderate traffic of the site that I am sharing the server with. But it's not, and I'm afraid to move my forums over to the new server because the response times are so slow for me.

Tonight, I did a trace to the server, and discovered that it's actually Verio's network that is horrible, and that all the server tweaks in the world wouldn't help things. But, I don't know if this is just for me (and my ISP @ work and home), or for everyone. So, this is where I need YOUR help .

Could you kindly do a tracert to the following IP address: 130.94.172.201, and either email it to me or post it here as well as telling me where you're accessing from? That would help me decide whether this problem effects everyone, or just me.

Your help is appreciated, and I will return the favor should you need it in the future .

Thanks a ton!

-jim

[JoshFink]

Here is what I got.. From Atlanta, GA

Tracing route to 130.94.172.201 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  NEC-GATEWAY [192.168.0.1]
  2    11 ms    12 ms    11 ms  24.88.62.1
  3    12 ms    48 ms    11 ms  hub-b5-rtra-faste1-0-0.atl.mediaone.net [24.88.0
.77]
  4    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  stn-mtn-rtrb-hssi2-1-0.atl.mediaone.net [24.88.0
.17]
  5    13 ms    14 ms    14 ms  att-56-66-17.atl.mediaone.net [66.56.66.17]
  6    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  att-56-66-10.atl.mediaone.net [66.56.66.10]
  7    15 ms    13 ms    14 ms  bb1-pos1-1.atlnta1.ga.home.net [24.7.71.53]
  8    14 ms    14 ms    15 ms  c1-pos8-2.atlnga1.home.net [24.7.77.213]
  9    36 ms    35 ms    34 ms  c1-pos2-0.washdc1.home.net [24.7.65.209]
 10    33 ms    33 ms    35 ms  c2-pos10-0.washdc1.home.net [24.7.78.178]
 11    34 ms    35 ms    34 ms  p4-0.athome.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net [24.7.71.6]

 12    97 ms    93 ms    94 ms  p4-6-1-0.r00.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2
.245]
 13    95 ms    94 ms    95 ms  p16-0-0-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
2.161]
 14    95 ms    97 ms    94 ms  p16-0-0-0.r04.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
3.162]
 15   113 ms   111 ms   112 ms  p4-1-0-0.r00.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4
.2]
 16   111 ms   114 ms   112 ms  ge-1-1.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.26.
132]
 17   112 ms   112 ms   112 ms  ge-1-1.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.26.
133]
 18   111 ms   111 ms   110 ms  130.94.172.201

Trace complete. 

[Steve Machol]

Here's what I get from my ISP in Northern California:

09/04/01 21:58:47 Fast traceroute 130.94.172.201
Trace 130.94.172.201 ...
 1 209.204.165.1    17ms   14ms   16ms  TTL:  0  (gateway ok)
 2 208.201.224.230  18ms   17ms   17ms  TTL:  0  (ape.sonic.net ok)
 3 208.201.224.4    19ms   18ms   17ms  TTL:  0  (gamma.sonic.net ok)
 4 208.201.224.1    17ms   19ms   20ms  TTL:  0  (mega-100BT.sonic.net ok)
 5 208.201.224.5    16ms   18ms   99ms  TTL:  0  (delta.sonic.net ok)
 6 157.130.203.241  21ms   19ms   22ms  TTL:  0  (500.Serial5-1-1.GW1.SFO1.ALTER.NET bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
 7 152.63.53.34     21ms   24ms   20ms  TTL:  0  (504.ATM3-0.XR1.SFO4.ALTER.NET bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
 8 152.63.50.37     25ms   24ms   36ms  TTL:  0  (291.at-2-0-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
 9 152.63.53.241    25ms   30ms   28ms  TTL:  0  (0.so-0-1-0.XL1.SAC1.ALTER.NET bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
10 152.63.52.249    26ms   36ms   33ms  TTL:  0  (POS6-0.BR6.SAC1.ALTER.NET bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
11 129.250.9.97     27ms   27ms   30ms  TTL:  0  (p4-1-2-0.r00.scrmca01.us.bb.verio.net ok)
12 129.250.3.33     36ms   30ms   30ms  TTL:  0  (p4-7-1-0.r04.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net ok)
13 129.250.4.2      86ms   81ms   93ms  TTL:  0  (p4-1-0-0.r00.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net ok)
14 129.250.26.132   92ms   84ms   91ms  TTL:  0  (ge-1-1.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net ok)
15 129.250.26.133  107ms   87ms   92ms  TTL:  0  (ge-1-1.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net ok)
16 130.94.172.201  199ms   81ms   97ms  TTL:241  (No rDNS)

[George L]

seems to load fine to me but a tracert suggests your ip or server's dns ?

1,203.45.xxx.xxx,16ms,CPE-203-45-144-1.qld.bigpond.net.au,----
2,61.9.209.4,6ms,gigabit-msfc1.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au,----
3,139.130.193.113,15ms,GigabitEthernet4-1.cha23.telstra.net,----
4,203.50.50.129,7ms,GigabitEthernet4-0.woo-core1.Brisbane.telstra.net,----
5,203.50.6.221,19ms,Pos5-0.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net,----
6,203.50.6.158,20ms,GigabitEthernet7-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net,----
7,203.50.6.18,36ms,Pos4-0.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net,----
8,203.50.6.162,48ms,Pos5-0.way-core4.Adelaide.telstra.net,----
9,203.50.6.194,78ms,Pos6-0.wel-core3.Perth.telstra.net,----
10,203.50.113.18,82ms,GigabitEthernet4-0.wel-gw1.Perth.telstra.net,----
11,202.84.249.109,307ms,pos2-1.paix-core01.net.reach.com,----
12,202.84.251.20,299ms,ge1-0.paix04.hkt.net,----
13,198.32.176.14,319ms,f0.pao1.verio.net,----
14,129.250.3.162,301ms,p16-0-0-0.r04.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net,----
15,129.250.4.2,343ms,p4-1-0-0.r00.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net,----
16,129.250.26.132,348ms,ge-1-1.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net,----
17,129.250.26.133,343ms,ge-1-1.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net,----
18,130.94.172.201,340ms,None,----

[George L]

tracert from my domain/site on my VO server

1,203.45.xxx.xxx,8ms,CPE-203-45-144-1.qld.bigpond.net.au,----
2,61.9.209.4,10ms,gigabit-msfc1.qld-remote.bigpond.net.au,----
3,139.130.193.113,13ms,GigabitEthernet4-1.cha23.telstra.net,----
4,203.50.50.1,14ms,GigabitEthernet5-2.cha-core4.Brisbane.telstra.net,----
5,203.50.6.225,26ms,Pos2-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net,----
6,203.50.6.18,36ms,Pos4-0.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net,----
7,203.50.6.162,49ms,Pos5-0.way-core4.Adelaide.telstra.net,----
8,203.50.6.194,90ms,Pos6-0.wel-core3.Perth.telstra.net,----
9,203.50.113.18,84ms,GigabitEthernet4-0.wel-gw1.Perth.telstra.net,----
10,202.84.249.109,294ms,pos2-1.paix-core01.net.reach.com,----
11,202.84.251.20,296ms,ge1-0.paix04.hkt.net,----
12,198.32.176.14,313ms,f0.pao1.verio.net,----
13,129.250.3.162,308ms,p16-0-0-0.r04.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net,----
14,129.250.4.2,342ms,p4-1-0-0.r00.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net,----
15,129.250.26.130,357ms,ge-1-2-0.a00.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net,----
16,129.250.26.149,339ms,ge-1-2.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net,----
17,157.238.46.185,343ms,animeboards.com,----

o01.us.ra.verio.net,----

[Steve Machol]

Yep - it appears your name server is not providing reverse DNS.

[JamesUS]

Here's what I get: It slows down as soon as it hits Verio.

Tracing route to 130.94.172.201 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 130 ms 141 ms 140 ms lng-dam1-a-fa10.inet.ntl.com [62.252.161.197]
3 161 ms 140 ms 140 ms lng-core-a-pos100.inet.ntl.com [62.252.160.133]

4 160 ms 140 ms 140 ms lng-bb-a-atm020-200.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.82]

5 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms lng-bb-b-ge-030-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.202]

6 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms gfd-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.141]

7 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms above-ntl-stm16-2.lhr1.above.net [208.185.188.29
]
8 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms core2-lhr1-stm16.lhr3.above.net [208.185.156.2]

9 260 ms 241 ms 240 ms lga1-lhr3-stm64.lga1.above.net [64.125.31.182]
10 281 ms 260 ms 260 ms ord2-lga1-oc48-2.ord2.above.net [208.185.156.157
]
11 360 ms 361 ms 360 ms sjc2-ord2-oc48.sjc2.above.net [208.184.233.45]
12 421 ms 351 ms 340 ms pao1-sjc2-oc48-2.pao1.above.net [208.185.175.162
]
13 361 ms 360 ms 341 ms p4-2-0-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.9
.129]
14 381 ms 360 ms 341 ms p16-0-0-0.r04.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
3.162]
15 401 ms 400 ms 401 ms p4-1-0-0.r00.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4
.2]
16 411 ms 421 ms 400 ms ge-1-1.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.26.
132]
17 390 ms 401 ms 380 ms ge-1-2.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.26.
149]
18 470 ms 381 ms 421 ms 130.94.172.201

Trace complete.

[Jake Bunce]

reverse dns == IP to name? is that bad that the name server isn't providing reverse dns? (i was playing minesweeper in my MCSE classes, so sue me )

[jpetrovs]

Here's a report from RoadRunner in Kansas City at 4 am CST. Looks very clean at low traffic times.

Report for 130.94.172.201

Analysis: '130.94.172.201' was found in 15 hops (TTL=243). It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a mod_bwlimited/0.8 PHP/4.0.6
mod_log_bytes/0.3 FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network |
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 0 | | XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX | XXXXXX | ... | | | | (private use) |
| 1 | | 10.61.64.1 | - | ... | | 21 | x-- | (private use) |
| 2 | | 24.94.161.106 | pos5-0.kscymo16-gsr1.kc.rr.com | - | | 11 | x- | ServiceCo LLC - Road Runner |
| 3 | | 24.94.161.17 | pos0-0.kscymo01-gsr1.kc.rr.com | - | | 11 | x- | ServiceCo LLC - Road Runner |
| 4 | | 24.94.164.3 | srp6-0.kscymo01-gsr3.kc.rr.com | - | | 10 | x | ServiceCo LLC - Road Runner |
| 5 | | 24.94.160.186 | - | ?Herndon, VA 20171 | | 9 | x | ServiceCo LLC - Road Runner |
| 6 | | 208.172.131.149 | acr1-sonet3-1-0-0.Dallasdan.cw.net | Dallas, TX, USA | | 22 | x-- | Cable & Wireless USA |
| 7 | 10 | 208.172.131.214 | cable-and-wireless-peering.Dallasdan.cw.net | Dallas, TX, USA | | 27 | x-- | Cable & Wireless USA |
| 8 | | 129.250.3.74 | p4-1-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net | Dallas, TX, USA | | 24 | x- | Verio, Inc. |
| 9 | | 129.250.5.84 | p16-3-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net | Chicago, IL, USA | -6.0 | 33 | x | Verio, Inc. |
| 10 | | 129.250.5.71 | p16-7-0-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net | Chicago, IL, USA | -6.0 | 33 | x | Verio, Inc. |
| 11 | | 129.250.2.221 | p16-5-0-0.r02.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net | Chicago, IL, USA | -6.0 | 35 | x- | Verio, Inc. |
| 12 | | 129.250.4.5 | p4-1-0-0.r01.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net | - | | 61 | x | Verio, Inc. |
| 13 | | 129.250.26.148 | ge-1-2.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net | - | | 74 | -x------- | Verio, Inc. |
| 14 | | 129.250.26.133 | ge-1-1.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net | - | | 62 | x | Verio, Inc. |
| 15 | | 130.94.172.201 | - | ?Englewood, CO 80112 | | 57 | x- | Verio, Inc. |
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roundtrip time to 130.94.172.201, average = 57ms, min = 57ms, max = 60ms -- 05-Sep-01 3:54:09 AM

[tubedogg]

c:\mysql\bin>tracert 130.94.172.201
Tracing route to 130.94.172.201 over a maximum of 30 hops
 1   160 ms   151 ms   140 ms  medi-max1-cs.dial.bright.net [209.143.22.53]
 2   131 ms   140 ms   150 ms  216.201.4.65
 3   130 ms   140 ms   161 ms  p50-cs.parksyn.org [209.143.3.13]
 4   130 ms   150 ms   141 ms  akro-gw.bright.net [209.143.19.1]
 5   130 ms   151 ms   150 ms  com1-akro-gw.bright.net [205.212.159.9]
 6   151 ms   150 ms   150 ms  hs-9-0.a01.clmboh01.us.ra.verio.net [207.206.104.105]
 7   150 ms   150 ms   150 ms  p1-0-0-0.a02.clevoh02.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.50.105]
 8   150 ms   150 ms   151 ms  p1-0-1.r00.clevoh01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.16.41]
 9   150 ms   141 ms   150 ms  p4-6-1-0.r02.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.2.29]
10   181 ms   170 ms   180 ms  p4-1-0-0.r01.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.5]
11   180 ms   180 ms   180 ms  ge-1-2.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.26.148]
12   180 ms   201 ms   190 ms  ge-1-1.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.26.133]
13   171 ms   180 ms   180 ms  130.94.172.201
Trace complete.

From Medina, OH at 5:22AM EDT.

[Nicholas Brown]

attached image is from the Uk - 56k dialup.

This is a traceroute from above net new york:

root@hal [~]# /usr/sbin/traceroute 130.94.172.201
traceroute to 130.94.172.201 (130.94.172.201), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  main2-main1-ge.colo4-5.lga2.above.net (64.124.144.3)  0.553 ms  0.545 ms  0.394 ms
 2  core1-main2colo45-oc48.lga2.above.net (216.200.127.157)  0.528 ms  0.487 ms  0.467 ms
 3  core1-lga2-oc192.lga1.above.net (208.185.0.245)  0.502 ms  0.727 ms  0.702 ms
 4  sea1-lga1-oc48.sea1.above.net (216.200.127.66)  70.023 ms *  70.079 ms
 5  sjc2-sea1-oc48-2.sjc2.above.net (208.184.102.177)  87.114 ms dca2-iad1-oc192.dca2.above.net (208.184.233.125)  5.033 ms  4.965 ms
 6  sjc2-dca2-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.233.133)  71.040 ms  71.044 ms  71.043 ms
 7  pao1-sjc2-oc48-2.pao1.above.net (208.185.175.162)  87.851 ms  87.753 ms  90.013 ms
 8  p4-2-0-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.129)  79.872 ms  79.874 ms  79.769 ms
 9  p16-0-0-0.r04.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.162)  72.013 ms  71.998 ms  71.998 ms
10  p4-1-0-0.r00.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.2)  128.532 ms  128.588 ms ge-1-1.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.26.132)  128.277 ms
11  ge-1-1.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.26.133)  128.445 ms  128.336 ms  128.252 ms
12  130.94.172.201 (130.94.172.201)  128.407 ms  128.306 ms  128.574 ms
root@hal [~]#

[Chris Schreiber]

Here's mine from Philadelphia, PA (over cable modem):

Report for 130.94.172.201

Analysis: '130.94.172.201' was found in 16 hops (TTL=244). It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a 
mod_bwlimited/0.8 PHP/4.0.6 mod_log_bytes/0.3 FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6). 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Hop | IP Address     | Node Name                              | Location                | ms  | Network         |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 0   | 65.9.123.***   | CN******-*.jamison1.pa.home.com        | ?---                    |     | @Home Network   |
| 1   | 10.73.66.1     | -                                      | ...                     | 12  | (private use)   |
| 2   | 24.18.63.113   | r1-fe1-0.jamison1.pa.home.net          | ?---                    | 16  | @Home Network   |
| 3   | 24.2.5.1       | r1-ge5-0.wyn1.pa.home.net              | ?---                    | 14  | @Home Network   |
| 4   | 216.197.151.81 | -                                      | ?Redwood City, CA 94063 | 15  | @Home Solutions |
| 5   | 24.7.72.9      | -                                      | ?Redwood City, CA 94063 | 20  | @Home Network   |
| 6   | 24.7.65.225    | c1-pos6-0.cmdnnj1.home.net             | Camden, NJ, USA         | 10  | @Home Network   |
| 7   | 24.7.65.85     | c1-pos1-0.washdc1.home.net             | Washington, DC, USA     | 11  | @Home Network   |
| 8   | 24.7.78.178    | c2-pos10-0.washdc1.home.net            | Washington, DC, USA     | 11  | @Home Network   |
| 9   | 24.7.71.6      | p4-0.athome.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net   | Mclean, VA, USA         | 15  | @Home Network   |
| 10  | 129.250.2.245  | p4-6-1-0.r00.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net  | Palo Alto, CA, USA      | 81  | Verio, Inc.     |
| 11  | 129.250.2.161  | p16-0-0-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net | Palo Alto, CA, USA      | 80  | Verio, Inc.     |
| 12  | 129.250.3.162  | p16-0-0-0.r04.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net | San Jose, CA, USA       | 80  | Verio, Inc.     |
| 13  | 129.250.4.2    | p4-1-0-0.r00.enwdco01.us.bb.verio.net  | -                       | 91  | Verio, Inc.     |
| 14  | 129.250.26.132 | ge-1-1.a02.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net    | -                       | 94  | Verio, Inc.     |
| 15  | 129.250.26.133 | ge-1-1.a03.enwdco01.us.ra.verio.net    | -                       | 118 | Verio, Inc.     |
| 16  | 130.94.172.201 | -                                      | ?Englewood, CO 80112    | 96  | Verio, Inc.     |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roundtrip time to 130.94.172.201, average = 96ms, min = 90ms, max = 100ms -- 05-Sep-01 6:37:08 AM

[Chris Schreiber]

Of course, a traceroute from my VO server looks much better:

traceroute to 130.94.172.201 (130.94.172.201), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  130.94.172.201 (130.94.172.201)  0.269 ms  0.212 ms  0.183 ms

LOL

[George L]

Originally posted by Chris Schreiber
Of course, a traceroute from my VO server looks much better:

traceroute to 130.94.172.201 (130.94.172.201), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  130.94.172.201 (130.94.172.201)  0.269 ms  0.212 ms  0.183 ms

LOL

LOL..

[Nicholas Brown]

Originally posted by Chris Schreiber
Here's mine from Philadelphia, PA (over cable modem):

Report for 130.94.172.201

Analysis: '130.94.172.201' was found in 16 hops (TTL=244). It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a 
mod_bwlimited/0.8 PHP/4.0.6 mod_log_bytes/0.3 FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6). 

Roundtrip time to 130.94.172.201, average = 96ms, min = 90ms, max = 100ms -- 05-Sep-01 6:37:08 AM

Hey Chris, what traceroute program do you use? Looks better than Ping Plotter