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    I am surprised no one posted about this before I did. Sun Microsystems is close sourcing MySQL:

    http://developers.slashdot.org/artic...37224&from=rss

    I wonder how this will affect vBulletin.

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    All they confirmed is that newer features may only be available in their enterprise version, in this case its the hot backup features.

    Only time can tell about the other stuff.
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    • #3
      Perhaps vB might get a choice of database engines now?
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        Considering Sun is also the company behind Open Office / Star Office, I am not too worried. Open Office has a lot of features and remains Open Source. Star Office adds some corporate features and file filters and has a minimal cost.

        MySQL has already been distributed under a dual-licensing model for the last 5 years with a community support GPL version and a corporate version with support. I don't see this change as any different.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
          Considering Sun is also the company behind Open Office / Star Office, I am not too worried. Open Office has a lot of features and remains Open Source. Star Office adds some corporate features and file filters and has a minimal cost.

          MySQL has already been distributed under a dual-licensing model for the last 5 years with a community support GPL version and a corporate version with support. I don't see this change as any different.
          If they start slapping MySQL users with an absurd licensing fee for each installation of MySQL, will you be worried then Wayne?
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          • #6
            Even closed source doesn't have to mean it will no longer be free. Even if it becomes commercial, it doesn't have to mean it won't be affordable. Imagine it becomes quite expansive, a hosting company could license the server and spread the cost with the customers, a $2 hosting account would perhaps be $4. Instead of the customer paying $2 for the hosting and $99/yr for a license.

            Since I am not in the business of MySQL and other db servers and hosting. I have no idea about this and will simply see what time will tell. I am not worried at all.

            I paid for vBulletin because it's good, and I will pay for MySQL if needed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ManagerJosh View Post
              If they start slapping MySQL users with an absurd licensing fee for each installation of MySQL, will you be worried then Wayne?
              Java is availabe for no cost...

              Open Office is available for no cost...

              Even Solaris is available for no cost...

              People have been crying that the next version of MySQL is going to be commercial and have big fees for the last five years, before Sun owned the technology. I don't see why they would change the current licensing model when it is the same as all their other product offerings. Quite frankly, MySQL's licensing is the only reason that it can think about competing in the marketplace. Oracle, DB/M, SQL Server, and Sybase all have it beat in features, scalability, stability and enterprise penetration. Sun wants to compete with Microsoft and it won't do that by pissing off the users of its products, especially one that is still an underdog in the market.

              Not only that, but they cannot retroactively revoke the GPL on current versions/installations of the software. Those installations will still exist and people will still use them while they convert to Postgres, Firebird, MaxDB or Ingres. Or maybe even the OSS Oracle Express.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
                Sun wants to compete with Microsoft and it won't do that by pissing off the users of its products, especially one that is still an underdog in the market.
                Agree 100%

                Talking about MSSQL - time to make vb working on ASP / MSSQL
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gomjaba View Post
                  Agree 100%

                  Talking about MSSQL - time to make vb working on ASP / MSSQL
                  Nah, PostgreSQL would be a much better bet if MySQL ever (and I doubt it will) becomes too expensive for vBulletin to rely on.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cromulent View Post
                    Nah, PostgreSQL would be a much better bet if MySQL ever (and I doubt it will) becomes too expensive for vBulletin to rely on.
                    Indeed PostgreSQL would make more sense, supporting MSSQL makes some sense, going to ASP does not.
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