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  • MistyPotato
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    The site you listed was first funded by Phillip Morris and now gets the majority of it's funding from commercial interests from within the food, restaurant and other special interest groups who's profits are affected by PETA's actions to stop the abuse.

    Again you talk the talk...but cannot walk the walk.

    It is glaringly obvious where certain team members interest lie. I notice you did not make one mention of the fact that one person stated they would like to shoot a deer in front of children and watch the children cry. Interesting. But you say this is a "Family" site. The hypocrisy here is just astronomical.

    Folks...the "truth" is that you don't have to listen to anyone else. If your do you own independent research you will find the honest truth.

    Here is the whole story on the special Interest based web site you mention.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_...nsumer_Freedom

    Unless you censor it out that is

    For anyone wanting to see the full story, and the animals recovery or help here is a link to the veterinary clinic where Jack is undergoing treatment. It is appalling, but many hunters would find this amusing and funny. Please promptly report any and all animal abuse to authorities. Animal abuse is illegal in ALL 50 states. Please do NOT be afraid to stand up to these abusers and bullies. Now I'm inspired, I'm headed over to PETA's site to make another VERY generous donation. Perhaps they need a new Vehicle for transportation.

    http://www.hotspringsvillagevet.com/lucky_jack_fund.htm
    Last edited by MistyPotato; Mon 12th Nov '07, 3:21pm.

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  • Zachery
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    Thats nice thats its on fox news, going to a news site you need to be aware that you could be reading grim stories. This is a family friendly site and we will not tolerate pictures of butured animals.


    Groups like peta are not really doing anything to help those animals, honestly.
    http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

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  • MistyPotato
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    This was not from a PETA site.

    Go to Fox News. It is currently (Nov 12, 2007) a top headline.

    It appears you are not offended by the news of hunters and the atrocities they commit yet you ARE offended by those risking their safety to prevent it and those who report it ?

    Interesting. Now I am aware of how uninformed you are sir.
    Last edited by MistyPotato; Mon 12th Nov '07, 2:51pm.

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  • Zachery
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    I removed the offensive content.

    Now, you are aware of some of the things that peta does to get their message across, and that they spend more on advertising and their own incomes then helping shelters, people with pets, etc.

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  • MistyPotato
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    There is a story currently on FoxNews about a Dog shot through the skull by a hunter. Itt did NOT come from PETA. It is on FoxNew's front page right now.

    THIS is exactly why organizations like PETA are needed and why, regardless of those who make excuses otherwise, I will support them. It is likely that whoever did this felt it would be humorous.
    Perhaps "done in front of camping children" as one in this thread put it.

    Note: This post was edited by Zachery to completely change it's content.

    This is a highly censored forum and only the "desired" content will obviously be allowed. I posted content directly from www.Foxnews.com about a terrible case of animal cruelty and it was censored.

    Last edited by MistyPotato; Mon 12th Nov '07, 2:52pm.

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  • Shining Arcanine
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    Originally posted by DaveTomneyUK View Post
    Hi,

    I have come across a website by accident and I was shocked to see what I found it shows how poor animals are killed just for there fur and the nice people at peta are trying to get all animal cruelty stopped.


    WARNING - Do not watch the fur video on the right if your do not like graphic material as I watched it by mistake which lead me to give a donation of 35.

    PS - Sorry if its breaking the vBulletin rules but I do not intend to upset anyone in any way I just feel so sorry for these poor animals, People should respect all animals just like they respect use.

    Thanks for reading this.
    These animals are raised specifically for their fur. If people were not interested in buying fur, these animals would have never existed.

    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    My family eats meat two or three nights a week. However we only purchase organically grown meat. That means no beef and almost no pork until next year. Until then its mostly chicken, buffalo and maybe some rabbit if we can get it. We don't buy meat from factory farms but from friends who grow it for us. This year we have a pig, steer (half) and 2 turkeys being raised by friends. They aren't abused, get the best feed and are butchered humanely (less pain than a death row inmate). We buy the chicken and buffalo from local ranchers.

    This doesn't take away that animals should be treated with respect either.
    To a chemist, all meat is organically grown.

    Originally posted by Creepshow View Post
    Well, I personally beleive that neither animals or humans have more rights than the other. All life is totally equal is far as I'm concerned.

    Neither is more important than the other.
    As a science major, I personally believe that humans are animals as a consequence of being members of the animal kingdom. It follows that your statement is illogical.

    Originally posted by ChrisLM2001 View Post
    No such thing as Communism/Socialism/Marxism in Nature. There are species on the top of the food chain, and the species that rules all we know, is Mankind. Can't remove Mankind from his role, unless Mankind relinquishes that role and no longer be human.

    So humans are more equal, not more irresponsible, but more than equal simply by inheritance.

    It's a heavy responsibility, but if mankind doesn't think wisely, and chases political agendas headfirst, he won't have to worry about those issues -- as we'll become extinct by not conserving that inheritance called life.

    And ironically, it starts right at home with the likes of PETA trying to redefine the roles of Mankind, blurring the issues, and trying to topple humans from their perch, to be but animals so we can be "equals".

    Equality=Extinction.
    That is not true; bee society is a perfect example of totalitarianism:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...e-control.html
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ees-wasps.html

    Thankfully, bees are inferior to human beings, so we do not have to concern ourshelves with liberating the oppressed workers.

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  • Zachery
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    We are mearly stating our personal opionions on the matter, nothing more.

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  • MistyPotato
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    Question.....

    Is it the OFFICIAL position of Jelsoft that PETA is a "Terrorist" organization?

    I've seen a few team members make that claim.

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  • Comtech
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    Originally posted by DaveTomneyUK View Post
    People should respect all animals just like they respect us.
    Yea sure. Animals respect humans and some actually do, they love us. Dogs for instance.

    But, how many times per year are humans attacked by wild or even tamed animals? Across the world, I would estimate upwards in the xxx,xxx range. Steve Erwin, an animals best friend - killed by an animal. He was their best friend and one decided to kill him. That is a sign of respect alright.

    Bear attacks are on the rise in some states of the U.S.A.

    The majority of animal attacks are unprovoked. If that is your meaning of respect - I feel sorry for you.

    I really do like animals. I own two dogs, several talking parrots and took on a lot of wild animals as pets that come and go. But there is a time and a place for killing some animals for the sake of humanity. The deer population is one item of interest. If there were no deer season, we would be over run by them in two years or so.

    Helping humanity comes at a cost, and to some the cost is too high. I could do without most meat. I would still like to have wild salmon once in a while. But until the day comes that I am forced to choose another food source away from meat - I will continue eating meat.

    I personally wish they would clone Dinosaurs so we could know the thrill of hunting them and maybe the horror of being on the other end of being hunted - LMAO.
    Last edited by Comtech; Mon 12th Nov '07, 7:35am.

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  • Comtech
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    I personally have nothing against fur.

    Then again, I am a southerner who goes hunting and eats red meat. The fur, I do keep and make into coats or something along those lines. I waste a limited percentage of the animal as there are some parts I wouldn't have any use for and some would kill a person.

    I would love to take some of those Peta kids on a "camping trip" and pull out my rifle to shoot a deer or other animal. Watch their eyes fill up with tears as I beak out laughing at them.

    Where was Peta when Dick Cheney shot an almost extinct Harry Whittington? They didn't protest that shooting! Save the close to being extinct old people!

    On the other side, I like animals. I feed raccoons, squirrels and the like. But when hunting season comes along, I go away from my house and don't take my animal friends with me. If I bring home one of their fellow species I reassure them that it is not their mom, dad, uncle or otherwise kinfolk. They also help me eat some of that. See, animals don't mind!

    The only thing Peta is actually good for, is having attractive women get undressed. Now that I give an A+ and a standing ovation to peta for accomplishing!
    Last edited by Comtech; Mon 12th Nov '07, 6:54am.

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  • Creepshow
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    Originally posted by Businessservices View Post
    I guess you guys have never swatted a fly or killed a mosquito
    Don't be an idiot.

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  • Businessservices
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    I guess you guys have never swatted a fly or killed a mosquito

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  • ChrisLM2001
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    Originally posted by Creepshow View Post
    Well, I personally beleive that neither animals or humans have more rights than the other. All life is totally equal is far as I'm concerned.
    No such thing as Communism/Socialism/Marxism in Nature. There are species on the top of the food chain, and the species that rules all we know, is Mankind. Can't remove Mankind from his role, unless Mankind relinquishes that role and no longer be human.

    So humans are more equal, not more irresponsible, but more than equal simply by inheritance.

    It's a heavy responsibility, but if mankind doesn't think wisely, and chases political agendas headfirst, he won't have to worry about those issues -- as we'll become extinct by not conserving that inheritance called life.

    And ironically, it starts right at home with the likes of PETA trying to redefine the roles of Mankind, blurring the issues, and trying to topple humans from their perch, to be but animals so we can be "equals".

    Equality=Extinction.

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  • Creepshow
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    Originally posted by ChrisLM2001 View Post
    What it comes down to is the confusion with all these "movements".

    1. Conservation (caretaking and truly mindful of the whole ecosystem, especially mankind's part in it).

    2. Environmentalism (which has hijacked the conservation movement with it's extremist views of plants, animals and whatever first, not the overall balance of all species sharing the same planet -- coexistence).

    3. Animal welfare (the true caring of animals and their habitats, yet not denying mankind's imprint on each).

    4. Animal rights (the inane belief that animals have more rights than mankind, but show by hypocrisy their own control over animals).

    Groups like PETA like to blur all 4, when they're basically just #4 and #2 -- ALF like terrorists, who'd kill not only the animals and the environment, mankind in their zealotry.
    Well, I personally beleive that neither animals or humans have more rights than the other. All life is totally equal is far as I'm concerned.

    Neither is more important than the other.

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  • ChrisLM2001
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    What it comes down to is the confusion with all these "movements".

    1. Conservation (caretaking and truly mindful of the whole ecosystem, especially mankind's part in it).

    2. Environmentalism (which has hijacked the conservation movement with it's extremist views of plants, animals and whatever first, not the overall balance of all species sharing the same planet -- coexistence).

    3. Animal welfare (the true caring of animals and their habitats, yet not denying mankind's imprint on each).

    4. Animal rights (the inane belief that animals have more rights than mankind, but show by hypocrisy their own control over animals).

    Groups like PETA like to blur all 4, when they're basically just #4 and #2 -- ALF like terrorists, who'd kill not only the animals and the environment, mankind in their zealotry.

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