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    http://digg.com/linux_unix/MySQL_no_...s_to_the_users

  • #2
    http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html#downloads

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    • #3
      I realize that...if you had read the link :P

      5.0.30 is the newest version, only 5.0.27 is free to download. .30 is only available to platinum members

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      • #4
        Source for 5.0.30 is available here: ftp://ftp.mysql.com/pub/mysql/src/

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        • #5
          It'll just make want to switch to PostgreSQL even more, although my main reason is still that MySQL, like, blows.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by filburt1 View Post
            It'll just make want to switch to PostgreSQL even more, although my main reason is still that MySQL, like, blows.
            I concur, going down the Community and Enterprise route is going to bite back in the long run.

            It will be interesting to see what happens with it comes to binary releases, if they release platform specific binaries like the did for RHEL, Ubuntu etc then its fine.

            Only time will tell.
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            • #7
              So there will be no more win32 installer?
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              • #8
                Interesting to see that many big web sites have been pushing ' MySQL is great for open source community, we're running it now! ' articles the last 6 months and now reading this information. I will keep my eye on this news and follow it. Thankfully more and more netapps are supporting alternative database layers. Hopefully this will simply be like Scott mentioned and developers can still get the source code the usual way.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dean C View Post
                  So there will be no more win32 installer?
                  Looks like it.
                  Even if devs can get the code are devs ready to compile and release the binaries with their webapps?
                  How many webhosts are going to pay the money per server to keep mysql updated and if they do how much is the price of hosting going to go up?
                  Mysql has been heading this way for a while. Just like IPB did when they went from free to pay. All new versions will be paid and old versions free until they decide to stop making them available. It is time for devs to make their apps work with different rdms. Now is not a good time to develope only for a mysql backend.
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                  • #10
                    It's also one of the stupidest moves MySQL AB could have made. The only reason they're popular is because it's free, so it can be (and is) installed on many hosts by default along with many Linux distributions. For many years, MySQL lacked, and in many ways, still does lack, common database features like true atomic support (properly implemented transactions), views, triggers, and most importantly, ANSI SQL compliance.

                    Now MySQL is removing the free option, so PostgreSQL--already a free option and easy to install on most *Nix setups...I've never tried a Windows setup of it--will be more appealing. Quite possibly the stupidest thing MySQL could do.

                    (plus it could screw over Jelsoft, even though they abstracted out the database layer to a class; the queries, though, still assume a MySQL environment)
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                    • #11
                      (plus it could screw over Jelsoft, even though they abstracted out the database layer to a class; the queries, though, still assume a MySQL environment)
                      Not only Jelsoft, but, countless others that depend on mysql for the backend. This could be a good thing. Maybe now we'll see postgresql, mssql and other rdbms supported.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BassX View Post
                        Source for 5.0.30 is available here: ftp://ftp.mysql.com/pub/mysql/src/
                        Could someone compile a Windows Binary?

                        Originally posted by AWS View Post
                        Not only Jelsoft, but, countless others that depend on mysql for the backend. This could be a good thing. Maybe now we'll see postgresql, mssql and other rdbms supported.
                        Perhaps now PostgreSQL will usurp MySQL as the #1 database software. I would really like to see a PostgreSQL version of vBulletin.

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                        • #13
                          There's probably legal reasons against distributing MySQL in that matter.

                          If Jelsoft switches to an even more abstract database API middleware, then the underlying database itself will be irrelevant. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if vBulletin 4 or whatever does this, the objective being you never type a single query, but instead it builds queries itself designed specifically for the underlying database engine.

                          It's actually a very common technique in most other languages like ASP.NET and Java. PHP is different in that you're almost encouraged to use a PHP module for a specific database rather than an API.
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                          • #14
                            Linux distributions distribute compiled binaries. How is that different from distributing a Windows binary?

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                            • #15
                              The code in question is not under the same license.
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