AJAX pros and cons.

[cbiweb]

While reading this thread, I saw a few posts that are negative toward AJAX - from simple dislike to flat out hating it. I'm not trying to start a debate war here, but I'm curious about why some people don't like AJAX. Personally, I love it, and have had no problems with it. So for those who don't like it... why not?

[Zonex]

Perhaps they don't like how it creates less work.

[MGM]

Apparently because it makes bookmarks and the Back button useless... but I'm almost certain this can be fixed with some form of url manipulation....

MGM out

[filburt1]

I don't like it because it relies entirely on Javascript, which not everybody has enabled (by choice, quite often) and has wildly different implementations for each browser. Also, for those used to using the web, they expect that interacting with a component on a web page navigates to a new page and could be confused when seemingly nothing changes.

In principal, it's good, but with the reality of browsing and web users, I don't like it.

[Quillz]

While reading this thread, I saw a few posts that are negative toward AJAX - from simple dislike to flat out hating it. I'm not trying to start a debate war here, but I'm curious about why some people don't like AJAX. Personally, I love it, and have had no problems with it. So for those who don't like it... why not?

As filburt1 said, some people don't like it because it can be unpredictable in some browsers.

[Creepshow]

Simplicity is often the key!

This is why I prefer vBulletin version 2.0.x to 3.0.x / 3.5.x

So I'm not a huge fan a AJAX either...

[Zachery]

Simplicity is often the key!

This is why I prefer vBulletin version 2.0.x to 3.0.x / 3.5.x

So I'm not a huge fan a AJAX either...

*cough*
Disable ajax
Disable all the "bells and whistles".

Filburt did it, and he gained all the new backend functionaility

[filburt1]

Been rewriting entire templates, too. Keeping the PHP files intact, though, as always.

[Zachery]

What you did with WDF is awsome , personally I like the ajax/js and alot of my members really enjoy it too. They'd freak if it went away

[MGM]

I don't like it because it relies entirely on Javascript, which not everybody has enabled (by choice, quite often) and has wildly different implementations for each browser. Also, for those used to using the web, they expect that interacting with a component on a web page navigates to a new page and could be confused when seemingly nothing changes.

In principal, it's good, but with the reality of browsing and web users, I don't like it.

Isn't the total supposed to be less than 3%? Hardly a huge amount of people...

MGM out

[filburt1]

3% of 100,000 visitors for a month (random number, not necessarily my statistics) is still 3,000 annoyed users.

Wait until WDF v5, Zach...I'm not even using the built-in CSS anymore but wrote my own replacement style sheets instead for total control.

[Chroder]

All of the AJAX features silently degrade into normal separate pages when the user doesn't support the JS required, doesn't it?

[Zachery]

Yes, they should.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=166680&nojs=true

[ChrisLM2001]

I don't like it because it relies entirely on Javascript, which not everybody has enabled (by choice, quite often) and has wildly different implementations for each browser. Also, for those used to using the web, they expect that interacting with a component on a web page navigates to a new page and could be confused when seemingly nothing changes.

In principal, it's good, but with the reality of browsing and web users, I don't like it.

What he said!

Chris

[patriotcow]

I don't like the thread editing bit about it, I like the title bit though but when editing threads the browser goes all slow then somtimes when you edit the message doesn't even save and I have to do it again.