RIP George Best!

[minx]

(he's not dead)

He's ok... but i had to point out the irony of the situation

On one hand here in the UK we have 24 hour drinking laws comming into force soon (which i think isn't a great idea) and on the other hand we have the limelight on a UK superstar ex-footballer dying because of alcohol... isn't this testiment enough that the last legel taxable drug the governments want us to use 24 hours a day isn't really the best drug you can use to 'stimulate' the mind body & soul with...

food is a drug! - but dont abuse it!...moral of the story!

-M

[Zachery]

I don't really care about a 24 hour drinking law, even if it were imposed in my city/town/state. It helps the business thrive.

[ChrisLM2001]

I don't drink (because of the heart meds), so if alcohol dried up tomorrow it's not an issue for me. Same goes with gambling, porn and half a dozen other vices.

Alcohol does some really bad things to people. A neighbor's son is serving 20 years for almost killing his dad over him not giving him beer money (and after draining his dad's life savings on drink). He broke his dad's leg (he was nearly 80), pulled the plug on the phone and left him to die.

Whatever vice it is, there IS a reason it is a vice, and it's not just some Sunday moral sermon.

Chris

[Sn2]

George Best has a drink problem, the 24 hour law would make no difference anyway because if alcoholics want to drink at any time they'll do it, be it at home or in a pub.

The extra opening time for the pubs/clubs will stimulate the economy, there might be a few more ASBOs dished out but why should everyone suffer because of a few idiots. It would also help if the pubs/clubs stopped serving alcohol an hour before closing time to give everyone time to sober up before they go out onto the streets.

[ChrisLM2001]

Alcoholism doesn't start in a vacuum. A person has to be exposed to alcohol to become an alcoholic. And a person would need more than an hour to get over it's effects (it all depends on body weight, metabolism, chemistry how fast it's burned off).

Arguments that, "just a few get plastered too much shouldn't excuse us from drinking", is equal to "yeah, so what if a few terrorists have a nuclear bomb, we can have ours too". [substitute it for every other killing object too]

Personally I wish they'd criminalize the stuff, maybe then MADD wouldn't need to exist, let alone AA.

Chris

[Dean C]

I don't particularly find the parallel you are making amusing. Especially the way you titled the thread RIP George Best when he's still alive. I'm not going to get into a debate over the new law though, other than to say I'll be abusing it's legality

[minx]

I don't particularly find the parallel you are making amusing. Especially the way you titled the thread RIP George Best when he's still alive. I'm not going to get into a debate over the new law though, other than to say I'll be abusing it's legality

He's comming to the end of his life! <- doctors words today! sorry about that title, i hope he survives and tells all on the eve of the opening of 24hr drinking that its a bad idea... but that aint gonna happen, scratch another one up to booze!

Cannibis <- banned/illegal... ask yourself this question, how many people have died because of it?

-M

[ChrisLM2001]

Many. But the same folks who like to drink it up, are like the same folks who'll excuse pot as being "harmless" too.

Chris

[minx]

well, in the UK were gonna need more money for the olympics, so the extra unwanted pregnancies, the lost livers, the deaths, the fights, the man hours im sure will help! - oh and the millions of pounds spent on taxable alcohol... - we'll see the worlds finest atheletes in London 2012 and partly funded by those who would have trouble running up stairs or walking in a straight line while pissed... (and the lottery, another tax for the feeble minded)

Everything in moderation isn't it? i drink...about 2-3 units a month, hardly anything...compared to my holy-herb!...but im not psychotic... i wont become a mentalist over night!... still it isn't taxed and so illegal...yadda yadda...

-M

[ChrisLM2001]

The question are more like this: why drink in the first place? Does if offer nutrition? Does it offer a true benefit to just have a pint with mates (where any drink would do the same trick, even a cup of tea or coffee)?

The liver processes alcohol like a poison, so why abuse your own temple and kill it? Just for some laughs with joes, and "fitting in"?

I can get that just by having a lunch with friends over iced tea.

Chris

[chrispadfield]

Thats nice for you Chris, but a good proportion of us quite enjoy an alcoholic drink. I promise not to try and get iced tea banned, why not let me drink what I want?

[ChrisLM2001]

Because iced tea isn't going to impair some two-bit bozo and kill a friend, that's why.

I watched a friend die on the road, Chris, all due to drinking and driving.

Chris

[chrispadfield]

I am sorry that happened to your friend Chris but it seems it was the mixture of driving and alcohol that was responsible. Stopping people drinking makes as much sense as stopping people driving, stopping the combination is of course essential.

[BamaStangGuy]

Because iced tea isn't going to impair some two-bit bozo and kill a friend, that's why.

I watched a friend die on the road, Chris, all due to drinking and driving.

Chris

I watched a friend die driving as well. No alcohol, no drugs, just carelessness.

So let's ban cars too because people can not be responsible behind the wheel.

Sorry, I like a beer with my meal and a shot or two at a party and I for one can control myself. I have never drove under the influence of anything.

[chrispadfield]

Exactly. I really don't get it in the UK, everyone complains about the "nanny state" all the time but this licensing relaxtion seems to be pretty unpopular with a lot of people (especially the media for some reason, but then we know their narcotic of choice is probably not alcohol). I really don't understand it.