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Originally posted by Vtec44Protecting your product is one thing, you can sue and obtain the script back, but going after a person's personal properties is just a bit harsh.
Chris
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Originally posted by ChrisLM2001Looks like it's something, considering just going after the script (let alone $250,000) wasn't enough.
Just asking for what they claim is theirs and court expenses is enough. Going for momma's wedding ring and stuff, isn't about punishment, it's about screwing a rival.
Chris
or about intimidating a defendant to the point that he just gives up.
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Originally posted by ManagerJoshPerhaps Personal vendette?
Just asking for what they claim is theirs and court expenses is enough. Going for momma's wedding ring and stuff, isn't about punishment, it's about screwing a rival.
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Originally posted by Vtec44As a business owner, I can totally understand the concept of having a corporate protection "umbrella". What I don't understand is why would someone want to go after a person's personal properties. Protecting your product is one thing, you can sue and obtain the script back, but going after a person's personal properties is just a bit harsh.
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Originally posted by ChrisLM2001Whoa!
In case folks don't understand: being incorporated gives an owner certain protections from being sued -- like their personal assets can't be touched (their home, car, boat, etc.) to pay back debts or penalities. It's why folks incorporate (plus gain it's tax advantages).
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Originally posted by BrentWilsonPlease, someone tell me what purpose this thread serves in the PP vs. VBGallery lawsuit that is over and done with.
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Originally posted by ChrisLM2001Whoa!
In case folks don't understand: being incorporated gives an owner certain protections from being sued -- like their personal assets can't be touched (their home, car, boat, etc.) to pay back debts or penalities. It's why folks incorporate (plus gain it's tax advantages).
Chris
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Originally posted by joeychgoOh, and for those of you thinking that PP wasnt in this for the money. Let me offer this. #14 in the complaint is an attempt by PP to break the corporate veil of plurplanet. That means, if successful, not only could brian have lost the script and any assets of the company, but PP could have taken his house, cars, and anything else Brian owns to satisfy the judgement. So PP made this about alot more then just the script. And believe me, that is a real eye opener when you realize you could lose alot more then just the script.
In case folks don't understand: being incorporated gives an owner certain protections from being sued -- like their personal assets can't be touched (their home, car, boat, etc.) to pay back debts or penalities. It's why folks incorporate (plus gain it's tax advantages).
Chris
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Originally posted by BrentWilsonWhy are you fighting this tooth and nail and what do you hope to gain out of this?
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Originally posted by BrentWilsonYou are not getting vBadvanced Gallery back!!!! You are not offering evidence to prove him innocent just like others in this thread are not offering evidence to prove him guilty, all you seem to be doing is trying to defend Brian, some guy you have never met that may or may not have actually done what the lawsuit claims.
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Oh crap, leave the damn thing open. Close, close, close. Let people post if they want to.
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Originally posted by joeychgoI would think that loaning the PP software has nothing to do with the case in reality.
Someone please explain to me how brian allegedly loaning his copy of PP to someone else has any bearing on whether or not he violated copyright in regard to vbgallery....
The 2 are totally unrelated.
Also, let me remind people - Brian didnt just make that statemnt quoted in the complaint. That statement was part of a conversation. Why didnt they include the whole conversation? We dont know in what context those statements were made. The conversatio surrounding it could easily change the meaning of what was sad.
Oh, and for those of you thinking that PP wasnt in this for the money. Let me offer this. #14 in the complaint is an attempt by PP to break the corporate veil of plurplanet. That means, if successful, not only could brian have lost the script and any assets of the company, but PP could have taken his house, cars, and anything else Brian owns to satisfy the judgement. So PP made this about alot more then just the script. And believe me, that is a real eye opener when you realize you could lose alot more then just the script.
These cases are rarely an open and shut, one side is all right and the other is all wrong. I would guess that no matter who won, the other side would not be paying attorney's fees of the winner. Those kinds of awards are usually reserved for truly frivalous lawsuits.
I remind everyone, you are not seeing ANY evidence, only the accusation. MY read on the complaint sounds to me like Brian was using PP and set out to develop something better for himself, eventually rewriting the entire code and developing a product he discovered could be resold. This says to me that he originally did not plan to resell the software, and as he got into developing it more and more, began to make it more his own until it no longer had any code in it that was original to the software.
I dont know if thats the case or not, but merely my speculation. I also suspect strongly that PP through so much legal power at Brian that even if Brian won the case, it would have cost him far more then the software was worth. I know Brian had already spent in excess of $30k on his defense. Should he spend another $100k on a trial? What does he win then? Its called a bad risk.
Again, just speculation - nothing more, but something to consider and debate. I am not trying to defend Brian nor attack PP. But alot of people were originally quite pissed at Brian and thought he was a sellout. Clearly, that is not the case.
Close the thread already. What purpose does it serve.
Please, someone tell me what purpose this thread serves in the PP vs. VBGallery lawsuit that is over and done with.
If you want opinions you got them! If you want anything more than that you are wishfully thinking.
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I would think that loaning the PP software has nothing to do with the case in reality.
Someone please explain to me how brian allegedly loaning his copy of PP to someone else has any bearing on whether or not he violated copyright in regard to vbgallery....
The 2 are totally unrelated.
Also, let me remind people - Brian didnt just make that statemnt quoted in the complaint. That statement was part of a conversation. Why didnt they include the whole conversation? We dont know in what context those statements were made. The conversatio surrounding it could easily change the meaning of what was sad.
Oh, and for those of you thinking that PP wasnt in this for the money. Let me offer this. #14 in the complaint is an attempt by PP to break the corporate veil of plurplanet. That means, if successful, not only could brian have lost the script and any assets of the company, but PP could have taken his house, cars, and anything else Brian owns to satisfy the judgement. So PP made this about alot more then just the script. And believe me, that is a real eye opener when you realize you could lose alot more then just the script.
These cases are rarely an open and shut, one side is all right and the other is all wrong. I would guess that no matter who won, the other side would not be paying attorney's fees of the winner. Those kinds of awards are usually reserved for truly frivalous lawsuits.
I remind everyone, you are not seeing ANY evidence, only the accusation. MY read on the complaint sounds to me like Brian was using PP and set out to develop something better for himself, eventually rewriting the entire code and developing a product he discovered could be resold. This says to me that he originally did not plan to resell the software, and as he got into developing it more and more, began to make it more his own until it no longer had any code in it that was original to the software.
I dont know if thats the case or not, but merely my speculation. I also suspect strongly that PP through so much legal power at Brian that even if Brian won the case, it would have cost him far more then the software was worth. I know Brian had already spent in excess of $30k on his defense. Should he spend another $100k on a trial? What does he win then? Its called a bad risk.
Again, just speculation - nothing more, but something to consider and debate. I am not trying to defend Brian nor attack PP. But alot of people were originally quite pissed at Brian and thought he was a sellout. Clearly, that is not the case.
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